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Will the Red One become Obsolete?

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Peter Hodgins

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What I mean is ....
(Ignoring the fact that anything is possible ....)
When the Epic and Scarlet are in full production, are the present plans to still produce the Red One?
I'm new to the Red and trying to decipher all the options. To me the Red One fills a hole in the projected product lineup, and is maybe the camera for me. I'd be happy to get one now.Will the Red One"brain"continue to be an option?
 
I don't think you'd get a response from RED on this (understandably), but I'm fairly confident the answer is no.
 
I was just looking at red.com again, and maybe a Scarlet with the S35 mysterium-X could be a replacement for the Red One, or the Epic-X feature set. I think Red has already emphasized that "anything is possible".
 
I am sure Red will stay ... and will be available with upgrade mysterium ..
 
Peter Hodgins said:
I was just looking at red.com again, and maybe a Scarlet with the S35 mysterium-X could be a replacement for the Red One, or the Epic-X feature set. I think Red has already emphasized that "anything is possible".
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Red, Epic, and Scarlet are 3 different cameras with different purposes... the Scarlet (even though it is newer than the Red) may not have all the features of a Red One.

It is silly to think the Red One is going to be obsolete when there is a sensor upgrade planned for it, and already the CF reader and audio boards are being upgraded mostly free of charge...

The line-up makes sense even if you just look at the pricing.
 
I understand Peter is asking specifically if the Red One will still be in production in, let´s say, 2010 or 2011. And I would place my doubt on it... Of course they will still be around for years, with factory upgrades available, as still are the Arri IIIs and BLs and SRs or even the Arri 2Cs after many years out of production, with accesories available from Arri or third-party suppliers; but I don´t believe new bodies will be produced for a long time after the new models appear in the market.
Guido
 
R1 with the monstro upgrade is the only S35/Monstro combo on the roadmap (if it hasn't changed). I also think the "all in one" formfactor of R1 will stay its course for quite a few applications. There will of course be better cameras, but it doesn't make it obsolete.

If I should wagor a guess for the trade-in program, RED could/should sell the trade in bodies at very reduced prices to all filmschools around the globe, so that all students become instantly familiar with the system and workflow. That would have a huge impact...
 
R1 is a hero cam, and with upgrades be arround for aloooong time. Best cam and best company possible.
 
despite the efforts..

despite the efforts..

Peter Hodgins said:
What I mean is ....
(Ignoring the fact that anything is possible ....)
When the Epic and Scarlet are in full production, are the present plans to still produce the Red One?
I'm new to the Red and trying to decipher all the options. To me the Red One fills a hole in the projected product lineup, and is maybe the camera for me. I'd be happy to get one now.Will the Red One"brain"continue to be an option?
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...by red people to picture the red line-up as a consistent range, and whatever the future upgrades will be (and whatever the current offer for going from red one to Epic is), facts are to be faced. In the process of development, something showed up that ruled the red one out as a basis for future major developments and to ensure that red cameras could be both upgraded and maintained on the cutting edge of technology. Too bad for red one owners, even if people at red are trying hard to make them forget. The red one is an excellent tool despite its limitations, it will continue shooting outstanding images and will be technically supported... but no...it's not likely to stay in the market for long as a manufactured product !
 
Upgrade to Monstro means a bigger hole anyway but I do have already mounts and optics READY for FF35 on RED Monstro :) .
 
FF35? Don't you mean S35?

Anyway, with the ability to upgrade the sensor to a Mysterium-X or Monstro, then the Red One will still hold on for years. Scarlet is under Red One, Epic is above.
It's a trinity that works well together.
 
I doubt there will be many new orders for the RedOne once the new cameras arrive. So it's unlikely they'll be producing them much afterwards. I'd imagine they'd stockpile some and possibly sell refurbished ones that have been traded in at a discounted price. As I see it the Red One allowed Red to prove to themselves and the world they could make a capable camera. Scarlet and Epic ought to be the camera system they (Or Jim) always wanted and as such the Red One to a degree is obsolete. At the end of the day though you can still make great footage with the Red One so chasing after extra functions, bit depth and dynamic range is useless if you aren't already shooting interesting stuff with this camera. It's all about camera envy :)

Paul
 
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