Don V. Stephens III
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My partner David Callahan was in the endzone with the Sigma 120-300mm f/2.8 (Nikon mount) shooting at 3K.
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Hi Don,
Judging from the considerable motion blur, this appears to have been shot at a slow shutter speed, maybe 1/48th @ 24fps. Just a guess. If so, I'd be curious to know what percentage of useable "still" frames you had. To be honest, unless you were intent on making an artistic statement, these would not even be in the hunt when compared to frames from the dedicated stills cameras.
BTW that was a shocker of a game! I was kinda hoping the Sooners would come through.:w00t:
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Don V. Stephens III
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Fran,
Thanks for the note. Yes, he shot it with a slow shutter speed - not sure of the specific settings. We were shooting motion, not stills.
--Don
Thanks for the note. Yes, he shot it with a slow shutter speed - not sure of the specific settings. We were shooting motion, not stills.
--Don
Hi Don,
I kind of figured that. I bet the motion looks good, though. That's the thing I don't think people are considering when it comes to this whole "DSMC" concept. Frame grabs from movie cameras have been possible as long as there have been movie cameras, you can try it with RED ONE, no need to wait for a Scarlet. Lots of folk seem to think they're going to be able to get both stills and motion in one take. Sorry, but IMO it's not going happen. Sure, you can do it sometimes, but even the guy who shot those video gamers for the NY Times went up to 1/100th, I believe. And they were barely moving!
To stop motion with this subject, you'd probably need to get to about 1/800th to 1/1000th. Then ASA has to go up, lens has to open up, etc. And what does that make the "motion" look like? Saving Private Ryan. It's complicated.
Anyway, hopefully OU will be in the BCS Title Game. Still waiting for the Cornhuskers to crawl back into contention one of these days. Anyway, Go Big 12!
-Fran
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Nice! I caught some of that game...what a dominating performance by OU. Bob Stoops used to be defensive coordinator at UF (where I am proud to go) during our 1996 National Championship season. If OU wins the big 12 and jumps Texas, and UF wins out, it'll be UF-OU in the BCS title game... I am certainly looking forward to that game!
One of our other photographers covered the UF-Georgia game and saw a crew shooting that game with a slew of Red Ones.
One of our other photographers covered the UF-Georgia game and saw a crew shooting that game with a slew of Red Ones.
harjotsingh
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Love the pics. Was it hard to focus. Using f2.8 lol.
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Don V. Stephens III
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Fran - those are great points. David may jump in here, but I think he was worried about getting enough light with that huge lens... so he erred on the side of motion blur. For the next shoot, we'll try to push it harder on the shutter speed. Unfortunately, no passes available for bedlam tonight, so that may be it for football this season.
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Don V. Stephens III
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Harrison,
Any idea what they'll do with the Red One footage? Our stuff will be for next year's pre-game jumbotron videos, and perhaps some other team DVDs. (Of course, our evil plan was to generate some killer demo reel stuff, and I think we succeeded!)
Any idea what they'll do with the Red One footage? Our stuff will be for next year's pre-game jumbotron videos, and perhaps some other team DVDs. (Of course, our evil plan was to generate some killer demo reel stuff, and I think we succeeded!)
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Don V. Stephens III
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Thanks! I can tell you that David said the viewfinder was rock solid - but he was still pleasantly surprised at the number of usable shots. The biggest problem was that he got an early version of that lens which was extremely stiff on the zoom - without a servo zoom, we won't be trying to track long passes with that lens.
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Don V. Stephens III
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Some pix of the camera built out:
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Fran,
Early in the game I shot at 1/192 shutter, and later in the game dropped to 1/125. My first time to shoot a night game w/ the Red One, so I wasn't sure how far I could push it. I suspect I could have gone another stop at least, maybe even two and still got good images. We were definitely not trying to get great stills, but shooting for motion.
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Absolutely it was difficult to focus! As Don mentioned, the lack of a servo zoom made passes difficult to cover since I couldn't pull out quick enough. Would love to know some of the secrets the NFL films guys use to get their great images. Probably just lots and lots of experience. When shooting from the end zone, everything is either coming or going so there's the constant adjusting of focus. I think shooting from the sidelines may have made things a bit easier, but probably not a whole lot.
Hi David,
That's a tough one to pull off, stills and motion at once. Looks like the video was nice, though. Focusing those things is always a big adventure. I had a chance to shoot three stadium events at Anaheim a few years back with an SR3, some Kodak Vision 800 and a couple of long telephotos. Man, that was challenging. Really makes you respect the NFL Films guys and the pre-auto focus, Heinz Klutmeier-era stills guys!
BTW Good luck to the Sooners. My wife's from Nebraska, kind of dragged my east coast big-city butt into the fray of the Big 12. I remember when I was a kid, even before I got into it, I thought the Nebraska-OU game WAS football!
-Fran