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OT: Movie you MUST see: Slumdog Millionaire

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If you guys get a chance to see Danny Boyles' new movie, see it and bring friends. Simply a beautiful piece of work. We were lucky enough to catch it at Austin Film Festival and it is easily going to be one of the best movies released in the next year, in my opinion.

Great story, great acting, great cinematography...it has it all. Can't say enough about it...nearly everyone walking out loved it, too.

Kevin
 
Totally agree. Watched it last night and loved it. Puts everything I've seen shot on RED to shame, actually. Also, every smart, cute girl I know loves it too ;)

I think we should start a poll:

"Which movie will get the higher RottenTomatoes rating for the period of Oct 2008 - Oct 2009?"

a) Slumdog Millionaire (shot on SI-2K)
b) any of the films shot principally on RED

If we take monetary bets with all the REDfanboys, maybe we can be on our way to owning a nice little Scarlet.

What do you think, Kevin?

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
Bruce Allen said:
Totally agree. Watched it last night and loved it. Puts everything I've seen shot on RED to shame, actually. Also, every smart, cute girl I know loves it too ;)

I think we should start a poll:

"Which movie will get the higher RottenTomatoes rating for the period of Oct 2008 - Oct 2009?"

a) Slumdog Millionaire (shot on SI-2K)
b) any of the films shot principally on RED

If we take monetary bets with all the REDfanboys, maybe we can be on our way to owning a nice little Scarlet.

What do you think, Kevin?

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
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You still think that a camera is responsible for beautiful shots? Ok.
 
i dont think that michael schuhmacher can win the grand prix of monaco with a bycacle
and i dont think that Mr. XY will win the grand prix of monaco by driving a ferrari.

its the combination that makes the breathtaking possible.
 
I know Anthony Dod Mantle very well (have worked with him a couple of times). I know he's very found of the RED camera. After all he's using it on Antichrist right now.

He must be one of the funniest guys to have around on set. Shit lighting :biggrin: but his humour compensates for that :sarcasm:
 
Ramesh Jai said:
You still think that a camera is responsible for beautiful shots? Ok.
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I *still* think?!?! Somehow I think you got my meaning backwards. Sorry if I wasn't clear. FYI, Last time I checked I was saying what nice stuff you could get with an HV20 if you lit it well.

One of the things I like about Slumdog is it once again proves you DON'T NEED A FRIKKIN RED. Just talent. And a little money and luck. And as Weirdcrew says, a sense of humor ;)

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
Is it a certainty that the movie was shot on the SI-2K? I didn't see any mention of it on the Silicon Imaging page and they're usually quick to brag about anything done with their camera. I've been wanting to see this camera's images on the big screen for a while now.
 
Rudi Herbert said:
Is it a certainty that the movie was shot on the SI-2K? I didn't see any mention of it on the Silicon Imaging page and they're usually quick to brag about anything done with their camera. I've been wanting to see this camera's images on the big screen for a while now.
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It's shot on film and SI-2K - they used the little handheld rig to run around nimbly... and it looks like most of the film was shot that way, haha. You can definitely tell when it's on SI-2K. But you have to be a geek to care ;)

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
Bruce Allen said:
I *still* think?!?! Somehow I think you got my meaning backwards. Sorry if I wasn't clear. FYI, Last time I checked I was saying what nice stuff you could get with an HV20 if you lit it well.

One of the things I like about Slumdog is it once again proves you DON'T NEED A FRIKKIN RED. Just talent. And a little money and luck. And as Weirdcrew says, a sense of humor ;)

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
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Buying a RED1 doesn't mean buying a talent.

Also owning RED1 even with a set of MP lenses doesn't make you a successful filmmaker :) .

Great equipment doesn't help a weak talent.

Only your personal and original movie maker talent together with a great story+idea makes

you different from the crowd of ordinary RED owners.

Soderbergh is just one of the great examples...

Two CHE movies are much better then one Slumdog Millionaire movie....

Also shooting on SI-2K doesn't mean immediate creativity at all :) .

I saw a lot of crap shot with that camera system...

About a "little money" RED body is a cheaper then SI-2K body

that also has more versatile lens mount (IMS) that I "pirated" on RED1 :devil: .

Technical specifications for Slumdog Millionaire > > >
 
Bruce Allen said:
BWAHAHA! Wanna bet?

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema@gmail.com
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Bruce!

Always!!!!!!!!!!

"Slumdog Millionare" is a film that sharply shows how Bollywood wants to meet Hollywood, that's a pure kitsch and that can even drive millions to see it in the cinema (mostly India).

CHE movies are a pure anti-Hollywood a sort of concept art movies with a very clear aesthetic approach to CHE character and his time that could also drive millions in the cinema (but out of US, mostly in Latino and Hispanic world).
 
Bruce Allen said:
One of the things I like about Slumdog is it once again proves you DON'T NEED A FRIKKIN RED. Just talent. And a little money and luck.
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Change "a little money" to "a lot of money", and you'd speak truer. There's no disputing that you could make a masterpiece with an HV20, but probably not for $30 or $30,000 or $300,000. Even $3,000,000 might be it pushing it today.

There's a strange alchemy here -- inexplicably large sums seem to be necessary to create persuasive dramatic illusions, if one wants to venture beyond the mannerisms and exhausted dramatic conventions of low-budget filmmaking -- but that and possible alternative strategies is a thread for another day.
 
Guys, as I said in another post, if you're still looking at shots, resolution & camera quality after 5 minutes into a film...it ain't working as a story. I promise you, a half hour into Slumdog Millionaire, you won't care if it's shot on film, RED or an HV20. It just doesn't matter...the STORY is that good.

Tell you what...one of my favorite films of last year was "Once." That was shot on cheap SONY cameras, mostly handheld. Yet, it was awesome.

So...it's good to be geeky with all this 28k resolution stuff...but it's also good to remember what REALLY gets everyone's blood pumping...great stories, good directing, good acting, etc.

Go see "Slumdog." You'll see what I mean. :-)
 
Kevin Wild said:
Tell you what...one of my favorite films of last year was "Once." That was shot on cheap SONY cameras, mostly handheld. Yet, it was awesome.
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There's endless puzzlement in all this, you really can't generalize. I found "Once" to be insufferable -- truly. And while DV resolution had little to do with that reaction, it's possible to conceive another similar film with better production values and some dramatic alterations which might have altered it significantly for the better (for this one viewer).

Where markets, marketing and tastes converge, nobody knows anything, except that of all the potential defects and/or reasons for a failure to connect with audiences, the camera specs are least likely to be determining factors. But, at the same time, just about no one is able to accept emotionally that camera resolution is near the bottom of concerns he/she should be worrying about, at least on low budget productions. Which is maybe why filmmakers with very few resources are haunting reduser day and night, including national holidays.
 
JPP, I won't argue over an opinion. I loved "Once," you didn't. That's fine. A LOT of people did, as was a pretty big hit.

I think you are smart enough to get my point: ultimately it is story that matters to audiences. I would take a great story shot on inferior equipment over a lame story shot on great equipment any day. I think you agree, but I could barely understand your post. Maybe it is holiday-brain.
 
Glad you liked it, Obin!

It seems every year I go to Austin Film Festival, you can just feel there is one that stands out that most everyone will love. Last year I came back raving about "Juno" and sure enough, that one took off.

"Slumdog" will have a bigger hill to climb with it having a lot of subtitles and no American name actors...but what an incredible movie. Great directing, acting, writing...has it all, imo.

I can't wait to see it again...opens in Raleigh Dec 19th
 
Beautiful pictures are made of the following:

A good eye for:

1.) Emotion
2.) Composition
3.) Color and Light

Those are the tools I like depend on.
 
jpp said:
There's no disputing that you could make a masterpiece with an HV20, but probably not for $30 or $30,000 or $300,000. Even $3,000,000 might be it pushing it today.
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i think this is a very sad attitude to have. you absolutely could create a masterpiece with an hv20 and a few thousand dollars. you'd just have to have a story that doesn't require a lot physical resources and an enthusiastic cast and crew that doesn't require a lot of money.

see "primer". it was made for basically $0 aside from the $7000 spent on 35mm film stock and processing. it might fall short of being a masterpiece. but not by much.
 
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