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RED Team - What causes this kind of invective?

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Hey, Jim, Jarred, Ted,

Was reading in the Sony Vegas forums, where I saw one of the moderators, in response to the upcoming Scarlet announcement, say this:

"Vaporware is common in software, and marginally common in hardware....Can't fault RED for showing a prototype and announcing it, what makes it comical is that they're still not delivering working RED cameras, either. In a different forum, I had a really nasty debate with one of the RED team about the Scarlet, and had commented on April 12 that I would believe the Scarlet was a real product when everyman could shoot with one vs it being a boutique product. I also commented that I believed a shipping Scarlet might be seen by 2010. It was kinda funny to read Jim Jannard's post yesterday morning, I literally spewed coffee on my monitor, I was laughing so hard."

I mean, come on. You guys have delivered over 4,000 cameras, some of which have been used on major feature films, and still they are calling it vaporware? Come on.

I pointed this out, in a response to that passage, but it just drives me crazy.

I look forward to Thursday.
 
heh heh heh... as you mentioned we have heard the vaporware/scam comments many times before.. and coming from someone that works for Sony I would take those comments with a grain of salt.
 
I can't wait until this years NAB. Sony is going to get kicked in the balls yet again...or at the very least put their foot so far in their collective mouths that they will look like the most ridiculous person at the party.
 
I heard today that one of our competitors has said that we now need venture capital to stay in business... another said that "Jannard is now bored with his toy and not really paying attention to the business anymore...".

Such kidders...

Jim
 
Jannard said:
another said that "Jannard is now bored with his toy and not really paying attention to the business anymore...".
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HAhahahaha
That made my night.

Though they may be right... while they seem to be paying close attention to their businesses it seems you've actually been busy paying attention to your market.



:)
 
Jannard said:
I heard today that one of our competitors has said that we now need venture capital to stay in business... another said that "Jannard is now bored with his toy and not really paying attention to the business anymore...".

Such kidders...

Jim
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It's true, RED has a hologram of Jim in the entrance to the RED Ranch. I hear he (the hologram) just stands there looking around repeatedly shouting over & over, "we got a new camera, we got a new camera." Rumors have it, the real Jim is already comfortably on a small South Pacific Island counting his money over and over laughing hysterically while foaming at the mouth and mumbling incoherent words about his latest scam he will unleash upon the world. Reports have it that Mi5 is very concerned. The Queen herself has been flown to a safe & secure location. Insiders say he's become one of those rich mad men just like what we see in those James Bond movies. Too bad, but true.
 
And this whole reduser website with all its "supposed traffic" is in reality just made up by 2 guys in India.

....

That is including me..... Oh, I suddenly cannot remember any of my posts .... My name is Jo... &$%$!!!! No!"!

REBOOT

Hi. I´m Stacy. I own a Red One.
 
The Red Ones about 5000 people received around these days are really just holograms. So be careful not to stumble when you try to lift it from the box…
 
I have a friend here who is a high HD specialist at Sony that thinks Red is a fantastic camera. He's been all curious about it and toyed with mine being all like a kid at christmas... I know his "bosses" attitude is different though, and competition and badmouthing is a common trade on any marketplace. Try and start a car company, you'll feel the pain. A lot of companies are now very harsh with Red because it kept its promises, it delivered, it has a lot of success, and it's seriously used and considered in the real big industry now. That's very inconvenient for the competitors. Whatever happens, this will remain as Red will become more and more a reliable, accessible and top quality camera. Jim knows. You can't have the bread, the butter, and the cook's smile...
 
The funniest thing about Sony, is that they are such a big company, they can't get their story straight. Their DSLR division thinks a 24mp Bayer CFA sensor is the best there is, but their video camera division thinks a RGB strip CFA 12mp camera is the better than anything else...

Graeme
 
I feel very smart, making all this money with vaporware. ;-)
 
5000 cameras and i still couldn't buy a blockbuster movie (or indie!) that was shot on RED and RELEASED ON DVD. i'm not a big fan of announcement and endorsement by RED that their cameras are being used by Peter Jackson and supposedly filming a nicolas cage movie. That strategy work for a sunglass company. but not for this highly creative industry.

my question is just one.

slumdog millionaire was shot in SI2K mini.......
if RED is really technically superior and 'could' deliver superior image, why it is not being used as a de facto camera in hollywood.... something wrong ????
 
After this long it comes as no surprise to most of us, but I am still impressed with just how cool RED is staying under fire, and Jim in particular having invested what he has in this.

It may seem silly to some, but that really is amazing. Bravo!

P
 
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