18-85 T2.9 RED zoom...

[Mike Seymour]

We gave you a perfect optical design, no ramping or breathing, calibrated T-stops and focus marks, in a professional built package for 1/5th what the other guys would sell this lens for.

If you need /i, call 1(800) COOKE.

Jim

Jim just take the comments as an indication how keen the community is for RED to continue with its i/tech friendly approach. And that it is a really big deal to those of us who do loads of post-production, mainly as we want a system where we do not interrupt the DOP over data and it is quietly automatically recorded. Love the lens but moving forward this technology matters to a sizable section of the community.
(Yes we are still happily buying one )

Thanks

mike

 

[gbalaji]

Yes, cameras are now shipping with upgraded audio board and i/pins. Existing camera owners can expect an email from me in the new few days with an overview of our upgrade program where we will put in the audio board and i/pins into every camera in the field - at no charge to the customer. This will fire up by the end of September.

BC

Any update on #2050 sent for service 4 weeks before. Is /I and audio board upgraded.

 

[Poi Boy]

Yes Glen, I'm sure Jim will be crying all the way to the bank ( because he can't make them fast enough! ). I wish this lens would have been available when I got my cameras; I better save more money.
Aloha
-A

 

[David Mutchler]

Jim I've been with you since the beginning. I could call 1800-COOKE, but I chose to support you/RED. You've done a lot for me and I thank you, but I'm not giving up on the i/data for the Pro lens because it's important. When I heard there was no i/data, I couldn't believe it. I haven't felt this disappointed since the time mom told me Santa Clause wasn't real.

 

[Laco Zamba]

Maybe we have to wait for Pro PREMIUM lenses with i/data

RED cannot (?) produce more than 50 per month. I'm sure that they will sell it well even without i/data support.

 

[JanneJansson]

There was never, ever any plan to have i/pin support on the 18-85mm or the Primes...

The 18-85 internally however has changed quite a bit, the performance has been significantly improved, the foot marks are more accurate.. plus a few other cosmetic changes.

That is good. I-pin data is for lazy VFX guys Use a paper and a pen and problem solved. I rather have a sharp crisp and beautiful shoot from perfect optics, then electronic features.

Hardly, Try it on a Rack Focus. :whistling:

Lens data speeds up a VFX shoot, but it's not required (for me anyway). Without it just takes longer. Whenever I get a shoot with lens data, I just double check against it and do match move track anyway. But this is one of these panic issues, that gets talked about for ages, but when it gets time do the actual shoot, some 3D animator just eyeballs it anyway.

Cheers

 

[Corrado Silveri]

"Very" soon

European service.... Thanks!

 

[Mitch Gross]

Lens data is easy when converting a lens that already has encoders built in, say a stills lens that is designed to talk to the camera body. To implement it from scratch is a lot more work and could easily cost considerably more and make the housing that much bigger (compare the size of LDS Ultra Primes to non-LDS Ultra Primes). There are solutions to getting lens data from any lebs that entail motors attached to the zoom, focus and iris rings. Perhaps the View Factor unit will be able to do it but if not there are already other (more expensive) systems available. Fact is, lens data is something that a lot of people talk about but very few people actually use. Even in the F/X world.

The lens does not have mounting points for zoom motor or lens support, but it does have plenty of flat surface real estate for adding these items. This is a common way to do it -- all the Angenieux zooms have the motor bracketry added on and the older ones had the support mount added on as well. Same goes for Cooke. You might be unfamiliar with this because you've only ever seen them with the stuff mounted on, but take a look at the accessories Duclos Camera makes to see what does NOT come with the lenses. I've personally never seen an Optimo 12x without Paul's motor ring & carry handle, but they don't come that way from the factory.

 

[Roberto Lequeux]

Nice! I'd love to see brave steady ops muscle this bazooka.
Insane price! Can't wait to see just how spectacular it looks at 85mm

 

[Brent J. Craig]

Fact is, lens data is something that a lot of people talk about but very few people actually use. Even in the F/X world.

Only because there was no camera that fully supported it until now. I challenge you to find an Arri lens data box and a full set of LDS/iData primes anywhere in North America. I have tried.

 

[j99776655]

Lens data speeds up a VFX shoot, but it's not required (for me anyway). Without it just takes longer.

Oh, is that the only benefit? No big deal then, time isn't very valuable.

 

[Ivan G]

Oh, is that the only benefit? No big deal then, time isn't very valuable.

I love how this veteran Reduser doesn't want to come out so he makes a new user name to speak up....

 

[A. Clint Litton]

this is with the RedRock MB - and yeah - about 1mm too tight - but snugs up just fine - I will have some surprise photos of some NEW accessories very soon - shooting footage this weekend -

Just curious to know if there's any trouble using the RR MB at the wide end of the 18-85mm? I saw only two filter stages on your mattebox...it'd be interesting to see if there's still a clear field of view at 18mm with a third filter stage added. Any thoughts, Mark?

BTW, congratulations. It's like you're the proud father of a healthy baby boy. I feel like I should send you a cigar.

Cheers

 

[Paul Hazlett]

so, here was my quick fix lens support solution - (thanks to Mitch at Abel) - it's a Zacuto Q-Mount Studio + 3.5" rod with a furniture felt pad on it - $260 ish - I really like it - snaps right onto the 19mm

much more to come - I just totally in the weeds here -

this is with the RedRock MB - and yeah - about 1mm too tight - but snugs up just fine - I will have some surprise photos of some NEW accessories very soon - shooting footage this weekend -

whats wrong with today? cmon you don't have to actually work for a living do you?

but really....no pressure....only got 4000 people waiting for you to post....done yet?

 

[Mark L. Pederson]

Just curious to know if there's any trouble using the RR MB at the wide end of the 18-85mm? I saw only two filter stages on your mattebox...it'd be interesting to see if there's still a clear field of view at 18mm with a third filter stage added. Any thoughts, Mark?

no dice on 25mm or wider on the RR.

I want a light weight clip on MB for this guy asap.

 

[Mark L. Pederson]

whats wrong with today? cmon you don't have to actually work for a living do you?

let's see ... yesterday we supported 7 different productions - all being shot on RED, including a pilot for Disney - in addition to technical support for 2nd unit aerial photography for KNOWING in Boston - I'm doing my best ...

 

[HD Bubaloo]

What a group of Ball busters in regards to the idata. Two years ago you were shooting 1080 and didn't even have the option.

Now you have a 4k camera with the ability to work with Cooke and the two RED zooms that actually have the encoders built in, and this isn't satisfactory?

Give Jim and the guys a break or start building your own.

Sounds very ungrateful.

 

[Ketch Rossi]

Fantastic news, possibly I'll save some serious cash not having to buy the Arri/Zeiss 15-40, hehe. The 18-85 definitely will answer many, many needs, and it is truly a SEXY looking lens, absolutely gorgeus one in deed, also so trilled that Jim decided to leave the RED line arround the lens, as I recall at NAB I was asked by Big Jhon what my opinion was on that, and obviously I said, LOVE THE RED LINE, leave it on, PLEASE!!!


I don't think there ever was going to be any issues or relations with the CAnon "L" series glass, and it looks that much sexier.

Looking forward to some serious test results on the image quality Mark, but I'm sure they will rock.


ciao

 

[Matt Uhry]

it is truly a SEXY looking lens, absolutely gorgeus one in deed, also so trilled that Jim decided to leave the RED line arround the lens, as I recall at NAB I was asked by Big Jhon what my opinion was on that, and obviously I said, LOVE THE RED LINE, leave it on, PLEASE!!!

Ketch are you taking pictures of you camera or with your camera ?

Matt Uhry
www.mattuhry.com

 

[Mike Smith]

What a group of Ball busters in regards to the idata. Two years ago you were shooting 1080 and didn't even have the option.

Now you have a 4k camera with the ability to work with Cooke and the two RED zooms that actually have the encoders built in, and this isn't satisfactory?

Give Jim and the guys a break or start building your own.

Sounds very ungrateful.

With all due respect HD, that's not a very logical argument. A few years ago we didn't have 1080 either. What has that to do with i/data? This is something Red HAS provided us with. It's a really good feature that has helped attract people to the Red camera. It's cutting edge. I don't think anyone is being disrespectful or ungrateful here. But to only offer this relatively new-to-industry feature on their cheaper lenses is a puzzling decision. I for one would like to understand it, although I doubt an explanation is forthcoming.

One thing these forums are for is to let Red know what features we'd like to see on the Red, Red lenses and accessories. To express a desire for this feature and puzzlement in its omission on the more expensive Pro-series lenses is hardly ungrateful. Do you think Red would prefer we keep our thoughts to ourselves?