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18-85 T2.9 RED zoom...

Brent@RED said:
After getting a LOT of customer feedback, we have talked about this a LOT here at RED and we are going to make an exception to the RED backorder fulfillment policy. This is a one-time deal for the 18-85. Here is how it will work:

* We will fulfill in order of RED 18-85 reservation number that was given when early orders were taken. Your receipt from that day should have a reservation number looking like 18Z-000###.
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My res is from my original PDF deposit page, and does not have the 18z prefix.

Am I still good? Maybe you guys should send out and email blast to ask
if lens res holders are still interested and to reconfirm, lots of cams changed hands and what not.

Just a thought.
 
Paul, send me that pdf to brent - at - red - dot -com .

That is exactly what we do. We will send an email to each person asking if they still want the backordered item. If so, settle the balance due and confirm delivery address.

BC
 
so, here was my quick fix lens support solution - (thanks to Mitch at Abel) - it's a Zacuto Q-Mount Studio + 3.5" rod with a furniture felt pad on it - $260 ish - I really like it - snaps right onto the 19mm

much more to come - I just totally in the weeds here -

this is with the RedRock MB - and yeah - about 1mm too tight - but snugs up just fine - I will have some surprise photos of some NEW accessories very soon - shooting footage this weekend -
 
Whats the CF on the lens, and how is the throw on the barrel ?
Also the pitch on the gearing looks a little different?
 
From what I remember at NAB, this monster felt like what any respectable DP would expect from pro glass...mechanically speaking, smooth as butter.

Mark...nice work man, now start posting some frame grabs!
 
no bridgeplate?

no bridgeplate?

is RED going to fabricate a lens support, nothing wrong with Zacuto but with a 10lb lens I would think RED must have taken this into account, also is there a threaded hole for a zoom stick?
 
Brent@RED said:
After getting a LOT of customer feedback, we have talked about this a LOT here at RED and we are going to make an exception to the RED backorder fulfillment policy. This is a one-time deal for the 18-85. Here is how it will work:

* We will fulfill in order of RED 18-85 reservation number that was given when early orders were taken. Your receipt from that day should have a reservation number looking like 18Z-000###.

* For all orders placed AFTER those reservation numbers ceased being assigned, the standard backorder policy will be in effect (ie, fulfilled in order of camera delivery date - one lens per camera).

* If you had a 18Z-000### reservation and switched that reservation to an 18-50 when we only had 18-50s available, we will honor your original 18-85 reservation number as your place in line.

* If you have a 18Z-000### 18-85 reservation number and have NOT taken delivery of your RED ONE, an 18-85 will NOT be allocated to you unless you take delivery of your RED ONE.

* If we notify you via email that your 18-85 is ready and you do not take delivery within 30 days, your 18-85 will be unallocated and go to the next person in line for allocation.

As most of you know, Brian Byrne is our BOMB SQUAD rep who handles backorders. He will be working with me and Kelly to get this allocation system set up with the above rules. Once it is set, Brian will start sending out emails. He is the person you will want to check with on backorder status. His email is brianb - at - red - dot - com .

Thanks for all the feedback that everyone provided. These changes are a direct reflection of us listening to and weighing your opinions.

BC

PS, I will post here when the RED PRO 18-85 is listed in the online RED store.
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Thank you thank you thank you!

Full disclosure: I have reservation #354.

Thank you, everyone at Red, for reviewing your policy and modifying it in this case. I really believe it's the right thing to do, and actually honors your word from when the 18-85 reservations were originally taken. The time you spent discussing this internally is really appreciated.

Best Always,

Matthew Verkler
 
Offhollywood said:
so, here was my quick fix lens support solution - (thanks to Mitch at Abel) - it's a Zacuto Q-Mount Studio + 3.5" rod with a furniture felt pad on it - $260 ish - I really like it - snaps right onto the 19mm
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Looks good. Is there a 3/8" or 1/4" threaded hole on the lens for a support?

How snug is your redrock mattebox?
 
phaz said:
My res is from my original PDF deposit page, and does not have the 18z prefix.
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Hi Paul,

I have a reservation for 2 lenses from January 2007 that are just 6 digits for each (000392 and 000393), but I also have one from the September 2006 with the 18z in front of six digits (18Z-000058). The forms are slightly different as well, so it just looks like they stopped putting the 18z in front of the serial number during the early 2007 reservation period.

Walter
 
viewfinder said:
Jim you're killing me. No i/data in the 18-85mm? You were so close to making the perfect lens, now I feel like we stopped just short of the finish line. Please, let's get back in the race and add i/data and cross that line together.
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I completely agree. Red gives us the first camera that (presumably) can record lens metadata on a frame by frame basis and then leaves this functionality out of their professional series of lenses?

Is it a technology licensing issue? Can it be added for $1000 per lens?

Will there be a 'super Pro' series with the expected connections?

Has someone decided that people don't want or won't use lens data?

I guess like most people I'm shocked that the bargain-priced lens has the pins and the top of the line ones don't.

Can you shed some light on what led to this decision?
 
kaplooee said:
Whats the CF on the lens, and how is the throw on the barrel ?
Also the pitch on the gearing looks a little different?
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Trying to remember from this morning, I think it was 28" close focus (from image plane) and the barrel throw was quite long, perhaps 300 degrees (nice). The pitch of the gearing is cine standard .32" (.8 in metric measurement).

Don't recall seeing any threaded holes for a zoom stick. There isn't a mounting point on the lens for a support, which leads me to believe that RED is building a circular clamp type bracketry to support it. That's nothing particularly odd, but it apparently wasn't ready in time for Mark's lens so I set him up with the Zacuto universal device. Works fine for now.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
Looks good. Is there a 3/8" or 1/4" threaded hole on the lens for a support?

How snug is your redrock mattebox?
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There is NOT a threaded hole for support.

The Redrock will not, as is, fit over the end of the lens - however, it really only needs a wee bit of fine sanding and I bet it will slide over just fine -

I promise i will post a bunch of stuff asap - trust me - I'm DYING to start shooting with this baby - it feels fantastic - but when it rains it pours - we were supporting so many Red shoots at the same time today it's a miracle I'm posting at all!
 
Offhollywood said:
There is NOT a threaded hole for support.

The Redrock will not, as is, fit over the end of the lens - however, it really only needs a wee bit of fine sanding and I bet it will slide over just fine -

I promise i will post a bunch of stuff asap - trust me - I'm DYING to start shooting with this baby - it feels fantastic - but when it rains it pours - we were supporting so many Red shoots at the same time today it's a miracle I'm posting at all!
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We'll take what we can get. I'm sure there are MANY who were wondering about the Redrock MB; sandpaper (and paint?) is cheap, so I feel much better now.

Your posts are definitely feeding the hunger for info, and we look forward to having our hunger for footage satisfied as well! Good luck with the downpour!

Best,

Matthew Verkler
 
Offhollywood said:
There is NOT a threaded hole for support.
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Hmm... Any mount points at all for adding bracketry for motors, supports, etc?? I don't recall seeing any at NAB and I don't remember how they had it supported. Easy enough to rig something as you have, even something to strap or clamp to the lens as well. I guess I'm just surprised that there isn't an immediately available solution from RED for such a thing.

The Redrock will not, as is, fit over the end of the lens - however, it really only needs a wee bit of fine sanding and I bet it will slide over just fine -
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Yep, that's what I figured in one of my above posts. Seeing as the bellows of the RRMB should only be 1mm smaller in diameter than the outside of the 18-85. Should just take a few minutes to make it work.

I promise i will post a bunch of stuff asap - trust me - I'm DYING to start shooting with this baby - it feels fantastic - but when it rains it pours - we were supporting so many Red shoots at the same time today it's a miracle I'm posting at all!
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Can't wait to see what you can share. I'm anxious to know how this lens compares to the Cooke 18-100. I've been hungry for this lens since my hands-on with it at NAB (all of about 3 minutes of playtime there).
 
CrewPix.com said:
I completely agree. Red gives us the first camera that (presumably) can record lens metadata on a frame by frame basis and then leaves this functionality out of their professional series of lenses?

Is it a technology licensing issue? Can it be added for $1000 per lens?

Will there be a 'super Pro' series with the expected connections?

Has someone decided that people don't want or won't use lens data?

I guess like most people I'm shocked that the bargain-priced lens has the pins and the top of the line ones don't.

Can you shed some light on what led to this decision?
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Greg, I'm with you. I don't get Red's strategy with i/data support at all. It's touted as a feature on the camera, which god bless them is finally delivered, and then when the first pro lens is released... SURPRISE! No i/data. Why not? Why not support it on their own lenses so they can offer a complete, integrated solution? The strategy is expressed as..."You want i/data lenses? Go rent/buy Cooke." Oh.. but you can get it on our low end lenses... (which IMHO aren't aren't accurate enough for VFX work....)

Granted, i/data aside, this looks like an awesome lens. I was impressed with it at NAB. I still want one. But WHY would Red not include i/data support? I can't imagine it costs that much more to include... or to your point, at least offer it as an option.

It's been an uphill battle asking for Arri LDS data support on the body so I could use my LDS lenses... but I was at least expecting to use it on the Red pro series. That's quite a disappointment.

M
 
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