Canon 10-22mm and Canon 75-300mm with IMS on RED

[Sanjin Jukic]

Canon 10-22mm and Canon 75-300mm with IMS on RED.

Andy Lesniak was already testing those lenses before on his EF dumb EOS mount on RED.

My test is about IMS Canon EOS "dumb" mount on RED.

Also I'm not going to talk about those lenses and all this sort of tests and reviews you could google and find it online.

This test is about IMS on RED and its flexibility that everybody is asking here.

So how you can work with "dumb" Canon EOS mount with IMS on RED (?)

First, you would need your Canon DSLR as a little helper

to set and lock aperture of your lens for a scene that you are shooting.

So take your Canon DSLR, point to the scene... and make a shot.

Second, swap your Canon lens from DSLR and then swap it on IMS Canon EOS mount on RED.

Now you are ready to shoot with your desired Canon EF lens on RED.

If you need additional exposure fix it with adding of ND filter(s) or Circular Polarizer filters (screw or MB).

Be aware that this footage is not a perfect one.

Also it doesn't have any artistic intention or a technical perfection

because there are some little glitches during zoom and panning...etc.

Sorry.

At the end it was just dirty and fast test about this IMS possibility with Canon EF lenses on RED.


HD 720 footage 83.7 MB>>>double click to download>>>

IMS on RED with Canon 10-22 mm zoom.

Shot with IMS on RED using Canon 10-22 mm zoom.

Shot with IMS on RED using Canon 75-300 mm zoom.

 

[David Wilson]

Sanjin, what are you talking about, "no artistic intention"? Everything you touch is artistic.

Thanks for this and everything you do.

Beautiful shots - beautiful place. Very much like the pan - is that shot at the 10mm end of the lens?

 

[Andrew Walker]

Nice looking footage. Plus a nice little laugh with the woman coping a feel.

 

[Jesse Rosten]

Looks great. Give us more!

 

[M_Sanderson]

Great stuff
Pop Question: Would it be possible to set your Canon lens to its optimal aperture, like 5.6 or 8 in some lenses and then use 2 circular polarizers to stop it down if you needed to. Or if you want the DOF look, put it wide open (if the lens is good at it) and then stop down accordingly, meaning you could leave your DSLR at home and you could use the pola's as your rudimentary aperture ring?
Just a thought!!!!!

 

[Martin Weiss]

Thanks for sharing - as always. Love how there is zero breathing on the focus pull. Can you use the IS function of those lenses on the IMS?

On the last panning shot there is quite a bit of shuttering viewable - even though it shouldn´t really at that panning speed.

That is exactly that problem that Bastiaan pointed out during the REDuser meet in Amsterdam earlier this month.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

Sanjin, what are you talking about, "no artistic intention"? Everything you touch is artistic.

Thanks for this and everything you do.

Beautiful shots - beautiful place. Very much like the pan - is that shot at the 10mm end of the lens?

Nice looking footage. Plus a nice little laugh with the woman coping a feel.

Looks great. Give us more!

Thanks guys.

The firs wide shot that is with a zoom starting at 10mm and finishing at 22mm.

All other two wide shots are at 10mm.

Aperture was locked at 5.6, extra was ND 0.06 and Circular Polarizer filters.

75-300 zoom aperture was locked at 9.0 and extra was Circular Polarizer.

Somehow Canon lenses can handle nicely focus in zoom.

Much better than Nikkors.

Also it was a pretty late and dark, about 6.30 PM after mostly rainy day.

And of course I was rushing again to get some shots.

It is not so easy to shoot in a public place with the tripod because everybody think that something very important is going to happen.

For example in a place of the first shot when I came there was nobody.

After I set up the camera all type of "point and shoot" camera touristic photographers came there to get their shots.

Then was crowded and that was a bit disturbing my shot.

Even they were asking me to shoot some of their shots.

 

[Martin Weiss]

One thing that can help with curious people: Do not look through the viewfinder when recording, pretend to check the camera or something. That way people are at least not aware that they are filmed.

Of course, if you have to pan, this will be harder... ;=)

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

Thanks for sharing - as always. Love how there is zero breathing on the focus pull. Can you use the IS function of those lenses on the IMS?

On the last panning shot there is quite a bit of shuttering viewable - even though it shouldn´t really at that panning speed.

That is exactly that problem that Bastiaan pointed out during the REDuser meet in Amsterdam earlier this month.

Martin,

Optimal panning and shutter speed you must learn with this camera.

In general a bit slower panning is always better.

Also better fluid head gives you smoother panning speed.

I have cheap HDV Bogen-Manfrotto type of fluid head.

Professional cine type of fluid head from O'Connor, Sachtler, Panther, Miller, Cartoni, Vinten or Ronford Baker will do a job much better.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

sanjin..please wash you hands before you grab a gals busom next time:clown2:

Nell,

definitely I'll do it .

 

[Martin Weiss]

In general a bit slower panning is always better.

At the Reduser meet we saw some footage that showed that this old rule was not true for the Red One. Bastiaan, an established dutch DP, ran some tests with a remote controlled head, and found out that curiously fast pans can look good on the Red One, as can slow ones. But medium speed pans (which would be perfectly allright on a film camera) resulted in strobing that was headache-inducing...

Of course it all depends on your shutter speed, panning speed, depth of field, lens and viewing medium. If they all work against each other, then we hit the "unsweet spot", as Ted called it in said Reduser meet.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

At the Reduser meet we saw some footage that showed that this old rule was not true for the Red One. Bastiaan, an established dutch DP, ran some tests with a remote controlled head, and found out that curiously fast pans can look good on the Red One, as can slow ones. But medium speed pans (which would be perfectly allright on a film camera) resulted in strobing that was headache-inducing...

Of course it all depends on your shutter speed, panning speed, depth of field, lens and viewing medium. If they all work against each other, then we hit the "unsweet spot", as Ted called it in said Reduser meet.

Thanks Martin.

Very good points.

 

[Charles Angus]

Try the Canon 70-300 IS - very similar in terms of specs to the 75-300, but much sharper...

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

Try the Canon 70-300 IS - very similar in terms of specs to the 75-300, but much sharper...

Angus Chandler,

For sure and also any Canon L lens, zoom or prime, is a bit sharper than standard Canon lens.

 

[Jason Ing]

Wow. Thank you Sanjin! Finally saw Canon in moving action. Very nice.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

Wow. Thank you Sanjin! Finally saw Canon in moving action. Very nice.

Jason Ing,

This "dumb" EOS IMS on RED is promising.

About Canon glass we do not have to talk so much.

It speaks by itself.

Also Canon 5D MkII is just DSLR with 30p HD 1080p H.264 movie

and a full 35mm frame size sensor.

RED still can get APS-C size picture and get all those Canon EF-S lenses like 10-22mm or with Sigma EF-S even 4.5mm fisheye.

Impressive and amazing in the same time.

But nothing without IMS on RED of course.

Vincent Laforet shot wide angle with an old FD glass converted to EF mount: FD 7.5mm f/5.6.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

Canon 17-85mm zoom weight 475 g (16.7 oz) compared with RED Pro zoom 18-85mm T.2.9 4.5 kg.