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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

CineForm Officially Supports Red One

nwfilmclub said:
So I can accomplish my goal by toggling the gain down until i'm happy with the noise/level? No wait you said it's switched off. so essentially gain is at zero (320 ISO)
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So you can shoot however you like, we will make nothing is lost in the transfer to a CineForm file. We find Red's neutral gain is 250, not 320, but we handle that for you.
 
David Newman said:
We got it working today (the file conversion part.) All you need in to do register MP4Spitter.ax in C:\Program Files\CineForm\Prospect4K and have CoreAVC installed (although CoreAVC may not be needed,) and the Canon 5D file convert very quick to CineForm AVIs using HDLink. You can use -0.1% speed shift to fix the 30.0fps to 29.97.
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What about capturing a feed off the HDMI port?
 
David,

Just as a heads up, I guess. I've been unable to open an existing project we're just finishing up in CineForm 1280x720 30p with the most recent P4K installed without getting an error message and being throwing out of Premiere altogether.

Finally occurred to me to try to uninstall P4K and reinstall P2K and the files open without problem. (maybe an earlier version of P4K would have worked as well - haven't tried)

Figure I'll just finish up this project with P2K installed and then reinstall P4K. There isn't a problem going back and forth is there?

Just so you know with so much going on for you guys these days.
 
David, not problem switching software revisions, I do that daily to test difference configurations. However your situation is surprising. One trick that fixes most Adobe project issues, is to open a new empty project, then import the project that isn't working. 95% success rate with that.
 
David,

Thanks for getting back. I had tried the new project/import approach but with the same result.

I'm fine for the moment switching back and forth as needed between P2K and P4K - just takes a second. We're all but finished with that year long project.

The R2CF batch scripting is working beautifully for us by the way. Thanks again for churning out all of this code.
 
Thanks, we hearing excellent reports all around with the R2CF batch tools, reliably converted in entire features shoots within requiring human intervention -- exactly the way you want a batch tool to behave. More features to come.

Regarding this troubled project, it is footage or the .prproj itself. If you can change the path to your media, and import without linking the clips, does Premiere crash? So you media is on M:/video, change the path to M:/video2 and load the project, if it loads, something is wrong with one the clip (I would love to have the bad clip), if it still fails, then it is prproj file that I would like to look it.
 
I'm all but sure it is the project itself. Actually a few projects (chapters) were crashing Premiere but not all from the movie. Strange.

I thought there must suddenly be bad clips until I tried to open the same files on my laptop (which is still running Aspect HD) and they opened without a problem.

I then went back to the desktop swapped out P2K for P4K and the files opened without problem.

I'm completely fine for now but let me know and I will send you whatever will help.
 
AV Link

AV Link

Ok so I could not find a french work, and started calling this thing AVLink...

Boring, but easy to understand. Whatever...

2 out of three tests that I sent to David worked as he expected them too. So from what I understand he now has the information he needs to move forward with this wonderful program.

I have not heard back on this, but I THINK I may have come up with a way to get around the 24 hour problem. (Since the TimeCode is "time of day" code, it will repeat every 24 hours, which means you would have to keep all files separated by day)

We'll see if my little idea works or not.

I still say this tool could be a big deal...

Jay
 
Jay, in your last test you seemed to have followed Aaton suggestion of putting the month and day (format MMDD) as the tape ID field, this is the near perfect solution to the missing date info in the user bits of Red's timecode. If you use the Tape ID in this way, there is no need to separate the audio files into shooting days.
 
I agree. But then you also need the date somewhere in the RED files correct? Did my idea of using the date located in the R3D filename itself help?

I asked Stuart if he could put it into the userbits of the RED timecode and he said it's possible. But the guy is either deadly busy, or very curt. Perhaps a little of both. Either way, I'm not asking him for anything anymore!!

I'll bug Jarred, he's nice to me... He's evil... But he's nice.

:)

Jay
 
Jay,

Sounds like you're getting this put together! That's great because I'm doing another feature next month. I hope it's ready by then.

BTW, I think your stay at the Wixom Luxor should happen to coincide with Sundance this year. :-)

-Thor
 
Jay,
No need to feel stupid, Red doesn't have a public document for what metadata they have included.

To All,
The next thing that will be nice is a project with a couple of shooting days of R3Ds and BWF audio tracks. Doesn't have to be from you Jay, but anyone who is shooting dual system with a Cantar or similar Jam sync'd audio device. What we intend to do is convert every R3D from a drive or particularly path, finding and sync'd all the audio automatically wherever in my be located within the drive. Nice to have sample media that is recorded this way. I checked the audio within OpenCut 1.0, but not timecode.
 
David,

I have what you need. I need a few days to clear my plate though. I'll send it as soon as I can.

I can send you a folder with multiple days of footage. I can even send you a sheet that details how the audio files are *supposed* to line up.

-Thor

(Jay, you might owe me lunch!)
 
Thor Wixom said:
David,

I have what you need. I need a few days to clear my plate though. I'll send it as soon as I can.

I can send you a folder with multiple days of footage. I can even send you a sheet that details how the audio files are *supposed* to line up.

-Thor

(Jay, you might owe me lunch!)
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Did you use a Cantar Thor? Just wanted to keep things the same until it's close to done
Jay

If that makes a difference
 
Jay A. Kelley said:
Did you use a Cantar Thor? Just wanted to keep things the same until it's close to done
Jay

If that makes a difference
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I don't think it was a Cantar. I can find out. Having it work with the Cantar is a good idea... but having it also work with other manufacturers is a better idea!

I supposed David could finish testing with your Cantar files, and then he could test to see if the Cantar "build" works with my files.

I can't get them to him for a few days anyway.

-Thor
 
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