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Dear Red chaps...please test these new CF cards!!!

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Yeah these look great, fingers crossed. Am I correct in saying that we will be able to use any compact flash card in an upcoming build? EDIT I see B17 lets us use non Red CF for 2K.

Might work at 4KHD if too slow for full, should at least work with 3K I would've thought.

Paul
 
These CF cards makers should buy a Red and test their cards... It's strange none of them never ever mentionned their cards as "Red compatible" since Red has opened a whole new market for them... In any case, I go with Red cards I trust... You don' buy a Ferrari and put cheap Midas tires on it...
 
Cf 100gb

Cf 100gb

This same company are showing a 100GB CF card with the 333X / 50MBs write speed at Photokina in Germany.
 
lewis said:
These CF cards makers should buy a Red and test their cards... It's strange none of them never ever mentionned their cards as "Red compatible" since Red has opened a whole new market for them... In any case, I go with Red cards I trust... You don' buy a Ferrari and put cheap Midas tires on it...
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I'd put different tyres on my ferrari if it meant I could go just as fast but for longer. With a potential 4000 Red owners requiring multiple cards I do agree there is a market there. I imagine they're looking at the new Nikon/Canon cameras with video more keenly though.

Paul
 
You know, perhaps I missed somethiing, but based on what I THOUGHT I read about B17 RED said it would "allow" non-RED cards to work in 2k shooting modes, but would not claim responsibility, you're on your own, blah blah blah..

Anyway my point is that this statement leads me to believe that RED has created some sort of hardware lock on it's CF Cards.

So bottom line: Fast enough or not, the card won't work. This system has been locked up and outside cards will no longer work on resolutions above 2k unless they are RED CF Cards.

Now, if I am wrong, then I am HAPPY. Cause this means once the cards are fast enough, we're good to go.

But from a business standpoint, RED has some cash invested in those 16gb cards and I would imagine they would need to move those before they would want to unlock the drive.

Remember how all this started: RED made the CF drive and then waited for cards to be fast enought... None came for a while.. So RED had to make the investment into it's own cards to make sure they worked.

As I said, I am hopeful I am wrong here, and the Drive will work with any CF Card fast enough. But if not, then what?

Jay
 
I think the makers of this camera do sometimes think about all that, don't they? So if they released their cards, I doubt it's just for the fun of having more gear with their stickers on... I stick to theirs... As I am sure the minute they can make some with more capacity, they will... CF technology is more complicated than it appears... It's not just stocking data... I use a Leica, and trust me, the speed is a huge factor in the taking of the pictures, when huge files get in there, you certainly want a good card... I can "feel" the difference when I use a cheap card... But I understand the stand point of people with capacity and/or budget. Bigger and cheaper is an incentive I respect. I just don't want hassle and don't feel like experimenting... So I stick to Redz...
 
Well,

I want everyone to win. I want RED to make whatever it needs to in order to make their CF cards a profitable venture, AND I want to be allowed to use other cards.

I remember Jim once saying "We not like the other guys where you have to use their cards or forget it. With RED you can go to your nearest camera shop, and as long as they meet the speed requirements, you can buy some CF cards off the shelf and you're good to go".

Well it did not work out that way cause the CF manufacturers were must slower than RED thought they'd be. But now with the DSLRs getting into the "video" world, I think this will change... Really fast. (excuse the pun)

Jay
 
I have been using 8gig Lexar-branded (non-RED-branded) cards on my RED all summer and they worked without a hitch. The only card that died during our film was a RED card! (Yeah, I know, the RED cards are made by Lexar.)

Now, that was on Build 15, and so I just switched to Build 17. I'll be mighty unhappy if those cards I bought won't work on Build 17 (but I know they also worked on Build 16).

FYI, we always shot RC36 at 4K 2:1 and never had a glitch (except for the shorted, dead card).

I would love to be able to buy these huge capacity cards if they work.

Stephen
 
It's entirely possible that Pretec is making the 16GB cards for Red, as well. Somebody's making them. So maybe we'll see these cards with a Red logo on them soon. Just offering a possibilty.
 
I buy Apple because the system is a complete solution - all the hardware is known to play nice together. That's only a $4000 computer.

For a $17000 camera, I would think you'd want to use the hardware blessed by the manufacturer. Just common sense.

Not saying you shouldn't be allowed to use any CF, just maybe you wouldn't want to.
 
I agree with you, AngusChandler...but I would like to option if I'm in a pinch to buy from some other source of cards to continue my shoot or have alternatives...
 
Just for the record, been using Lexar 8 gig cards on release build 16, no problems.

Nick
 
Please, whoever have a chance to try new large capacity CF cards, try it out and report back to us. I would do that if I have chance but where I live there is no large capacity CF cards!
 
Milan Nikolic said:
Please, whoever have a chance to try new large capacity CF cards, try it out and report back to us. I would do that if I have chance but where I live there is no large capacity CF cards!
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We tested the 24GB and 32GB Pretecs a while back and they were very slow on writes.

We're waiting to get the larger cards in. It can take many weeks to fully test the cards and even longer to get full compatibility and firmware changes rolled in.
 
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