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price drop HP DreamColor

Curran Giddens said:
I don't see any 10-bit S-IPS panels in LG's PDF catalog for 24" monitors.

http://www.lgphilips-lcd.com/homeContain/jsp/download.jsp?fileName=LG_Philips_LCD.PDF

I am going to cancel my order and never even think of buying anything from HP ever again....
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welcome to world of selling technology. this one goes to 11 ... well ... sort of.

pretty LAME on the part of HP I agree.

I spent some time with the guys from Rising Sun Research (cineSpace) at IBC with this display - and IMHO it's well worth the money - not a game changer - but worth the price for sure.
 
I'm holding out for a slightly larger version to use for photo editing.
 
Offhollywood said:
IMHO it's well worth the money - not a game changer - but worth the price for sure.
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Well, I guess I'll test it out since it already shipped out this morning. I do need a 20"+ LCD for on-set viewing anyway. But if it doesn't work with the HDMI output from RED then I am going to send it back.
 
Curran Giddens said:
Well, I guess I'll test it out since it already shipped out this morning. I do need a 20"+ LCD for on-set viewing anyway. But if it doesn't work with the HDMI output from RED then I am going to send it back.
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Keep us posted Curren! :biggrin:
 
HP says there is no FRC (frame rate control) and no dithering in their panel...
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It's possible that it's actually a 10-bit panel. Though perhaps HP could clarify. In any case, somebody has made a mistake here.

2- The FAQ linked to does claim that the LCD has "CRT-class blacks"... while in some contexts that may be true (e.g. you have lots of ambient light hitting the face of the CRT, you never ever deal with dark images) that seems to me to be an exaggeration. A 1000:1 LCD doesn't have CRT-class blacks.
 
Curran Giddens said:
I don't see any 10-bit S-IPS panels in LG's PDF catalog for 24" monitors.

http://www.lgphilips-lcd.com/homeContain/jsp/download.jsp?fileName=LG_Philips_LCD.PDF

I am going to cancel my order and never even think of buying anything from HP ever again....
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There's definitely some misinformation floating around about the product. LM240WU4 is the panel part that monitor users are reporting but it's clearly an 8-bit panel according to LG's description of the part. LG does have 10-bit displays (at least they market them as such) but they use dithering to achieve 10-bit color performance. Perhaps that is what happened in this case. HP simply tweaked the panel to get the 10-bits of coloring.
 
My point is, which statement should I believe?

Right now this whole thing is a $#!%storm waiting to happen, and I would really appreciate a clarification on this matter from HP & Martin.

Somebody's going to either have to clarify their words, expose the truth about the HP panel: is it a 10bit panel or not? Is there dithering and FRC as Martin claims, or is there none, as HP claims?


John T.
 
The only real way to tell is to get two monitors with that panel, crack em open, and see how the internals are wired.
 
Lexicon said:
The only real way to tell is to get two monitors with that panel, crack em open, and see how the internals are wired.
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I got my monitor in today, but I don't think I am willing to crack it open.

It says it was manufactured Aug. 2008, so maybe they are using an LG panel that isn't listed in their pdf catalog...
 
Curran Giddens said:
I got my monitor in today, but I don't think I am willing to crack it open.

It says it was manufactured Aug. 2008, so maybe they are using an LG panel that isn't listed in their pdf catalog...
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That's certainly possible given that the catalog material was updated at the beginning of 08. Perhaps they changed the specs of the panel and didn't change the number with a letter designation to reflect it.
 
I hear a 10 bit 24 inch LCD panel starts to come out end of this year.

By the way, my Sony Bravia W5000 has 10 bit panel.
 
Another new TV Logic? :-/ nearly bought 3 months ago but held off. Was nice with the scopes included...

I see the E-Cinema FX24 has also dropped in price... interesting!..

ps.. where's this Nvidia card!!! lol
 
It says it was manufactured Aug. 2008, so maybe they are using an LG panel that isn't listed in their pdf catalog...
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Apparently some users are accessing the service menu and figuring out what panel it is through that.

2- Surely if 10-bit matters, then you'd be able to test the panel and figure that out.
 
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