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I know many photojournalists. They are getting the Nikon as a backup and as a "Hey I can shoot a short video clip to compliment my photos". I have done work for AP that only went to the web. Web size is 320x240 pixels. Shooting on tape I have to run down to a post house that can satellite a feed to Washington. With short video clips already on a card I could easily upload those to a website in less time than feeding a tape and at no cost! It is about $1000 per hour to satellite a feed. The web news video stuff is here today and gone tomorrow. It's disposable but if you were running around as a freelancer covering Hurricane Ike, something like the D90 or the Canon might come in handy. If RED's DSMC can come in at a price point that is justifable, can use either Nikon or Canon lenses then it is a slam dunk.
 
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I know many photojournalists. They are getting the Nikon as a backup and as a "Hey I can shoot a short video clip to compliment my photos". I have done work for AP that only went to the web. Web size is 320x240 pixels. Shooting on tape I have to run down to a post house that can satellite a feed to Washington. With short video clips already on a card I could easily upload those to a website in less time than feeding a tape and at no cost! It is about $1000 per hour to satellite a feed. The web news video stuff is here today and gone tomorrow. It's disposable but if you were running around as a freelancer covering Hurricane Ike, something like the D90 or the Canon might come in handy. If RED's DSMC can come in at a price point that is justifable, can use either Nikon or Canon lenses then it is a slam dunk.
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very true
 
ahusain said:
The worse problem is the highly subsampled sensor and the aliasing artifacts that result. Unless all you shoot is fuzzy, low-detail images, that alone makes it unusable for probably all high-quality applications. Red still has no direct competition.
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Defocus it slightly maybe?
 
Really look forward to see those DSMC specifications

Really look forward to see those DSMC specifications

One large sensor, 24 * 36 mm
The whole sensor area to be used for Stills as well as full width of the sensor for video 24P, 25P, 30P, 60p ... in 1080, 3K, 4k and eventually 120p in burst mode.

To compete with the small big (Nikon, Canon, not the big big guys like Hasselblad, Phase One) guys in stills mode it has to be 24 * 36... period.
It should produce as good stills as the 5D Mark II will, at least in the 50 6400 ISO range.

Now in order to make it support ONE NEW REMOVABLE ULTRAFAST, ULTRACOMPACT, "LIGHTWEIGHT" GUERILLA RED ZOOM LENS, as well as some fixed RED lenses, more DOF (yes more), why not make it so it optionally uses some smaller part of the 24mm * 36mm sensor ... how much of the sensor... well it would be nice not needing a truck when you move this tool around... why not use an area equal to super35mm, same size as the RED ONE.
I would like to see the RED ultrafast zoomlens for this puppy to be more wide than tele. If compared to 35mm photo, then I would rather have
a 20mm - 150mm lens than a 30 - 200mm lens. For those wanting more tele, then make another zoom or some fixed lenses.

Then we have the best of both worlds....
Full 24 * 36mm sensor size for photography as well as for some 1080, 3k and 4k video and shallow DOF.
Super35mm with support for RED zoom and fixed lenses, not so shallow DOF, RED RAW, ultrafast, compact video beast.
All in one compact unit, with support for different DOF...... then buy RED lenses and/or Canon lenses depending on what you want to shoot.

When in video mode one should be able to choose between RED RAW and another more compact format.

I want it to come with a small sized battery for photography and some video shooting.
For more heavy video then it should be possible to hook up some optional batteries.

If the above for stills then they should also support canon EF lenses as well and if possible both Canon and Nikon lenses. If it supported EF lenses... then many of these lenses has IS (image stabilizer) built in...

AF and MF has to work flawlessly in both stills and video mode.

For stills it need X-sync for those mega studio flashes as well as a flash shoe on top of it.

One high res display where you can zoom in to check focus.
And absolutely mandatory, this display should be flippable so you can actually use it in different shooting situations where your eyes do not have to be right behind the camera (canon wake up). Please let this be an OLED display with antiflare surface so we can use it outside in all weather....

For stills it has to shoot RAW (why not Adobe DNG format), and if possible be able to shoot JPG in parallel.

Full weather sealing..

EVF and no mirror, yes as a photographer tool I want an EVF so I CAN shoot stills and rest the
camera against my head and see what I shoot..... MANDATORY as well.

100% coverage in EVF as well as flippable display.

A lightweight handle so you can hold it in your hands when shooting below your hips, standing still, walking or running (canon do you read this).
Please make this smart, so when not needed I can push it into the body, and when I want it I just pull out the handle.

A formfactor similar to my avatar please, and make the grip on the right side detatchable, so I can remove it and slide in at the bottom of the body in order to get a good grip when shooting video, as well as get it center balanced. And looking at my avatar (I did not create it), you will see some nifty tracks that could be used for mounting THE handle so I can hold this and shoot video as I walk/run etc and shooting below my hips.

Less than one kilogram.. (body only)

Of course support for XLR mics in one way or another, maybe default the small way... and optionally a RED breakout full size XLR box (premade tracks for this breakout box please so I do not have to use tape)
Headphone terminal.

Keep up the heat RED team
 
The DSMC will dominate the video/still market for news if it can pull this off and have available a plug for a shotgun mic or wireless. Its whats missing from the Nikon and the Canon equipment. And it is what is the main concern of several heads of photo departments across the industry. They have learned that without good audio multimedia doesn't work very well.
 
Here's that DSLR....

Here's that DSLR....

The picture Jim posted awhile back. It must be this one...
 
The big problem, that this picture fixes, is the comfort level photojournalist's would have with handling a video camera. If it fits in their hands like a standard still body they will love it.
 
Jim I do have a question and I know it has been talked about before here but I wanted to ask you your self. Now I plan one day on owning the whole lot of RED cameras. But for right now what would be best. Should I buy a good ole SLR for my still images and then Scarlet for my home videos(and beyond) or should I buy the DSMC.
Thanks.
 
You do get a little bit of the same problem with the RED in that same shooting situation. "Fast pans on nearby verticals". Not as bad as the Nikon D90 of course but something to be aware of. From what I understand, this is just the nature of CMOS sensors and rolling shutters. I should point out that the wobbling effect (verticals slanted at angles) is hardly noticeable whereas with the D90 (in this example) it's extremely obvious.
-shooter
 
Casey Green said:
Still hoping for interchangeable lenses on SCARLET.
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yeah, not going to happen. If the camera is to launch early next year, my guess is at NAB, then I'm almost certain there are prototypes built and happily recording images at RED Headquarters. Besides, it ain't a bad fixed lens, 28mm (full frame still 35mm equivalent) 8x. If you need wider or more telephoto like images I'm sure they'll be adapters to give you those looks.
 
William Robinette said:
That is Scarlet.

I believe Jim has said before that they will be two different cameras/of two different uses.

Besides, a fixed lens on a DSMC?
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I don't think that's Scarlet. If my memory serves, Scarlet was long and narrow like a video camera, and this is short and wide like a DSLR.

It seems plausible that either there are some RED lenses that will be available for purchase, or that Jim's early render has a RED logo on the lens simply because he wants it that way.

I think Jim is aware of the necessity for interchangeable lenses on a DSLR so I would be truly shocked if that was not the case. But I see no reason, come to think of it, that the RED-branded lenses designed for RED ONE would not work with his new camera.

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OK, so I have read this thread. If the DSMC will be so great, why would you need Scarlet? Why wouldn't RED just throw more resources into it's DSMC project?
 
Red Guy said:
OK, so I have read this thread. If the DSMC will be so great, why would you need Scarlet? Why wouldn't RED just throw more resources into it's DSMC project?
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At a guess Scarlet will be smaller and lighter. Also it will have more auto functions and a deeper DOF, making it more suited to the one man band/ soccermom market. I suspect the DSMC will be geared solely towards the pro end of the spectrum, with a larger sensor and probably higher price point. There is also the question of framerates. DSMC may peak at a lower FPS than either Scarlet or Epic.
 
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