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Ikonoscope A-cam dII

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They hinted to it a while back but this is the first I've seen the mock ups for it. Looks cool. Shoots DNG files.

S-16 size chip, RAW DNG files, 1920x1080 res
 
Yeah, I just got that email, too. Looks cool. Anyone hear a price yet?
 
Great that it shoots DNG.

Wish they would make something very similar but with a 35mm sensor.

Price is a little steep, IMO.
 
I just got this email too...I think they are going for a sub-RED market which I like because thats where I fit in. I like how they are keeping their cameras small.

Looks to me like you'd need an adaptor for different lens mount? How much would these be or are they inlcuded?
How much are the memory cards and do they fit inside the camera?
Runs on a Sony battery?

I think this is a good alternative to a Sony EX-3/HPX-170.
 
Tom said:
Great that it shoots DNG.

Wish they would make something very similar but with a 35mm sensor.

Price is a little steep, IMO.
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Tom-
What exactly is DNG? And what are the advantages? I saw that the camera also shoots TIFFs at much larger files sizes. Any advantages to that?

Thanks.
 
DNG is a somewhat opensource RAW file format that Adobe is behind. Several still cameras shoot the format, and now Adobe is pushing it as a motion alternative. I believe this will be one of the first cameras to natively shoot it.

The benefit being a standardized file format that would cross all aspects of production.

There would be no major advantage to tiffs, other than workflow compatibility.
 
This camera has several advantages over the Sony EX3, including RAW and the ability to shoot at 60fps @1080p. If this camera was closer in price to about $8,000 USD, I bet it would sell to indie filmmakers. What about audio?
 
Oh, my bad.... I skimmed over that one post and somehow misread that "€6.950" as a British Pound symbol. My mistake.
 
I figured about $10k...The US Dollar is gaining some ground on the looming European economy, so maybe if you wait a few more months we (Americans) can get a better exchange rate.

But, is this a RED $10k or is that all inclusive?
 
all inclusive
* Preliminary price is €6.950 and is including 1 battery, 1 Ikonoskop 9mm lens and 1 Ikonoskop 80GB Memory Cartridge.
 
if red didn`t announce scarlet for the near future I`d definately get a close look on this...
 
This might actually be that interchangeable lens Scarlet-like camera that a few people over on ScarletUser were clamoring for.

Still, the only real advantage to this that I can see over Scarlet is the interchangeable lens. RED has Ikonoscop beat on pretty much everything else, unless you're desperate to shoot uncompressed RAW. I'd take REDCODE and the extra resolution any day though.

EDIT: Also, it seems to be a bit lighter than Scarlet. But Scarlet has a built in lens, so that might even things out once a lens is attached.
 
kalone said:
all inclusive
* Preliminary price is €6.950 and is including 1 battery, 1 Ikonoskop 9mm lens and 1 Ikonoskop 80GB Memory Cartridge.
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Wow, actually, that is a sweet price.

So, what is 9mm lens an equivalent to on, say, a S35 body? 18mm?
 
It appears to be 12min for 80GB which would be about 800GB for a two hour shooting day (1hr per camera).

I'm I did my math properly, shooting 4k raw on red is about 200GB for two hours?

Do other people get the same numbers?
 
They would be wise to offer some kind of compression as an option, IMO. Unless the camera doesn't have the computing power onboard to do it.
 
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