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Red Lenses made by Cooke? BS or what?

Wikipedia is an interesting source of information as long as you understand that it can be at times less than reliable. Anyone can put information in it and its veracity can only be determined by further research. If I can't find the information from some other source, I find it interesting but suspect at best.
 
Digging deeper into the Wikipedia Cooke thing I found some usertalk by a "Babsannie" who says he/she is a director of the company and has a number of changes to the Cooke info including:

"Cooke Optics also makes two lenses specifically designed for the RED ONE 2540p digital cinema camera." This is not true. Cooke has not made a lens specifically for the yet-to-be released RED camera.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Babsannie
 
Business connection between Cooke and RED is just one more rumor about the RED ONE.
 
I'd say that by March when the RED One specs are finalized and published, or by NAB at the latest, that RED's relationship with Cooke, if any business relationship exists, will be answered. Until then, all the speculation and extrapolation in the world won't definitively answer the question...
 
I guess if the rumour is true, Red won't confirm it; and if it isn't true, it's not necessarily something they would want to deny!!
 
"Those who know do not speak; Those who speak do not know."

"Those who know do not speak; Those who speak do not know."

RED+Cooke rumor has no answer until now.

Silence.

And this sort of "silence" could have something like from Lao Tzu's:

"Those who know do not speak;

Those who speak do not know."
 
RED by cooke?

RED by cooke?

I agree with you that this would be perfectly sensible for a normal company making their first camera, and it wouldn't be bad for Cooke to make a private label lens - that stuff happens all of the time. Given all that, I think Jim wants to make his own lenses and given the tooling, optical manufacturing and coating equipment, and design capability Oakley has, it is probably feasible. I think they will make their own from scratch or possibly the 300 and/or 17-85 would be repackaged optics from Nikon or Canon - with the quantity they already have on order it wouldn't be hard to just bulk buy those lenses (or just the elements) and make their own shell, gears, etc.

PaulClements said:
Actually it makes alot of sense in a cottage industry. You have your high end products and name that you will always profit from but you don't lose out to a newcomer making cheap glass because you are infact making the glass for them. The deal for producing so many lenses would be at least a $1 - $2 Million, and the production costs for lenses not built by hand individually will be alot lower. That makes a fair bit of sense when you really think about it and your name doesn't get damaged because it is not related to the product.

All of a sudden Red introduces alot of people into a market that require Cine lenses. Supplying such a large quantity of individuals with a cheaper cine lense is an ideal opportunity for a company of Cooke's scale.

But I still doubt they are making them hehehe!!! :)
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So I guess it's not true.
 
hdcrew said:
If Cooke don't make them and now that Optex no longer exist I can only think of one other UK based company that converts still lenses, could Van Diemen lenses be a possible manufacturer of the RED 18-50?

www.vandiemen.tv

Nick
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Hi,

Van Diemen are not doing very much lens work, they sold much of their equipment. Much more likely IMHO is somebody who used to work at Optex or Van Diemen. From the 18-50 lenses I have seen, I get the feeling it is a small shop that got overwhelmed with a very big order.

Stephen
 
someone with detective skills?

someone with detective skills?

try this - rent cooke S4 lens. take a CLOSE look at focus ring. try to identify type of material which is made of... then, take a close look at red zoom lens... focus ring... type of material... looks similar or identical? hm...


filip
 
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