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Trademark clarification...

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LG is a large company. If Jim pick a fight with LG, it might make a 4K or 8K camera and sell it for $5K and put RED out of business.
LG has the technology and know-how and finances and production facilities to do this. RED might be able to compete with Sony on price, but, RED cannot compete with LG on price or quality. I hope RED picking a fight with LG might not end up as Georgia which picked fight with Russia.
Just a thought.
 
Hmmm... I don't know, Lawrence... I doubt LG would create a superior product at less than 1/3 the price just because someone picks a fight with them. They are a big company, lots of engineers, manufacturing facilities, etc.. That doesn't mean they can pull off the same sort of coup that RED has.

Or another way to put it... I wouldn't expect such a thing from a company that can't even deliver a hybrid Blu-Ray + HD-DVD player that actually works as advertised. Although, neither can anyone else who has tried.

Besides, I doubt that "Scarlet" the line of LCD HDTVs and "Scarlet" the camera are truly in conflict. Just think of all the products out there that share a common name, but are simply different products. Take the word "Rogue" for example... It's not just a model of car by Nissan. It's also a legally trademarked brand for footwear, alcoholic beverages, yard equipment, pool filter and heater systems, entertainment software, air hoses and much, much more that I'm sure many of us are not even aware of.

RED can't compete with LG on quality? ...Ouch. Them's fightin' words right there.
 
I have been using the names "Red Music" and "Musique Rouge" since about 1980. (Yes, I guess that makes me pretty old!)

I assume that your trademark doesn't operate retrospectively???

Or does it only apply to companies making video equipment and hardware?

I don't really want to be sued by you.... but on the other hand, I don't want to have to change my names after 28 years!!!
 
AntonyCASAFilms said:
I have been using the names "Red Music" and "Musique Rouge" since about 1980. (Yes, I guess that makes me pretty old!)

I assume that your trademark doesn't operate retrospectively???

Or does it only apply to companies making video equipment and hardware?

I don't really want to be sued by you.... but on the other hand, I don't want to have to change my names after 28 years!!!
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Hi,

If you have been using those names without being challenged for 28 years you have little to worry about.

Stephen
 
...or this...
 
Nah, the post before the cat. But I think you do know that. :)
 
Bike jerseys

Bike jerseys

I was hoping to have some RED Digital Cinema logo'd bike jerseys made up for a bunch of us but I will defer to the wisdom of Jim & Ted.....
 
digitalredvolution

digitalredvolution

Is digitalredvolution okay as the name for my blog about the Scarlet? I don't say that I own RED or something like this. I just am a Fanboy trying to show other guys what the Scarlet is.

Hope I won't be sued, please talk to me before, we can arrange something I think ;-)

But to be honest I don't think this will be a problem at all. :w00t:

-george
 
I think to act just like you're looking for any other clearance, but this time send it to RED for approval, or how else will you know 100% what's what? ...Other than the obvious infringments, which should be obvious. Hmmm. Okay. You never want to sink a hard (worked) on venture due to technicalities....

Obviously lots of questions are popping up - they'll have to be dealt with....

I hope it doesn't 'infringe' too much on some other RED saints' duties.

BTW: Pics worth a thousand words!
 
RED trademark

RED trademark

Some people are confusing domain names with trademarks. You can have a RED-based domain name. There are plenty of domain names that use trademarked words in the middle. Avid2FCP.com comes to mind.

It will be interesting to see how far RED (the camera) can extend the use of their trademark as it concerns RED (the TV).

Before RED (the camera) there was RED (Boris' FX package). These are similar in nature to the camera, and yet Boris hasn't kept RED (the camera) from using their trademark that I've ever heard about.

There are plenty of BIG companies with identical trademarks. Think United (airlines) or United (van lines). Avid (editing gear) and Avid (medicine). There are probably a lot of these with names that indicate superlatives (like Pinnacle or Acme or Ajax. There are some that are based on names (Harris).

Most of them are in totally different fields, but the camera, the effects package and the TV are all very similar. If anyone was entitled to it out of the three, it wouldn't be the camera. And I'd say that pushing a claim against the TV wouldn't be too smart since you could lose your trademark to Boris by trying to extend the reach of the trademark too far.

Of course, I am not a lawyer, though I have shot them for TV.
 
VerascopePix said:
Some people are confusing domain names with trademarks. You can have a RED-based domain name. There are plenty of domain names that use trademarked words in the middle. Avid2FCP.com comes to mind.
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While domain names aren't specifically related to trademark, appeals can be lodged through ICANN and the trademark owner is often successful there.

It will be interesting to see how far RED (the camera) can extend the use of their trademark as it concerns RED (the TV).
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I think there is some overlap on the categories in which they are registered. Jim said that LG approached them for an okay, and was denied, but went ahead anyway - not a great move really. Although super tricky is that LG registered their mark a week before RED did.
 
Sycophant said:
While domain names aren't specifically related to trademark, appeals can be lodged through ICANN and the trademark owner is often successful there.



I think there is some overlap on the categories in which they are registered. Jim said that LG approached them for an okay, and was denied, but went ahead anyway - not a great move really. Although super tricky is that LG registered their mark a week before RED did.
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They actually registered their mark AFTER we did in the US and most (all but two) countries. And they acknowledged reading reduser. Just so you know...

Jim
 
Jannard said:
They actually registered their mark AFTER we did in the US and most (all but two) countries. And they acknowledged reading reduser. Just so you know...

Jim
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Sorry, I was just going by what I saw on the USPTO site - Them on Jan 31, and you on Feb 6 - but that was just for the 'Scarlet' mark - I saw there were a number of associated marks, which I didn't check.

If LG is still reading - I think I'll be spending my money (when I have some) on a Samsung anyway. :)
 
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