Preping CD for Music video

[BigLu]

Hi does anybody know how to properly prep a CD for playback for a music video

I am shooting 23.98 RED
i understand my cd should be set at 29.97
How does one do this and how do i put TC on one channel and the song on the other channel?

I also want to shoot 48fps and 12fps
how do i prep the CD for these situations.

thanks.

 

[GlennChan]

Some professional shoots don't even record sync sound for music videos. They just let the offline editor sync everything up. (Of course, this means that a lot of times the stuff is out of sync.) Part of this involves taking notes so that the offline editor knows what verse they are singing to.

2- Now on the flipside, you can sync the music perfectly (from a technical perspective) but the musicians might not be in sync to the CD.

3- Here's what I would do:

a- If you can feed the sound directly into the camera, then it's a simple matter of matching up waveforms in your NLE. This will require either a cable or wireless (batteries), which you might not like.
If the music is heavily compressed like a pop CD, then the waveform will be flat and you'll need some sort of workaround.

b- You could also put into single frames of tone onto the CD in rhythm to the music... and then match up waveforms in post. I don't know if your musicians would be cool with that.

c- Or you can just play back the music as is, and sync it up in post manually. It's not that painful. Use tricks like the lips closing when it's a b or p plosive sound (on the waveform, you see silence whenever there's a b or p because your lips are closed... and then you see the waveform grow when the lips open and sounds come out).

d- If you are able to quickly cue up the CD to specific verses, that can save time on set. What I've seen used is a CD turntable so it's super easy to queue things up and to adjust volume.

 

[Dylan Reeve]

I saw a great idea online somewhere...

Make a video with After Effects or FCP or Avid or something that is nothing but a Timecode burn in really (with a 30-second lead in). Put the audio against that (so that it starts at 01:00:00:00 after 30 seconds of count up to there).

Export the whole thing to an MP4 and stick it on a Video iPod. On location use a cable or FM sender to hook the iPod to an amp for playback and use that. At the beginning of each take, cue the track, hold the iPod in front of the camera in place of or along side the slate and hit play.

Brilliant! No need for sync sound or anything - each clip begins with a visual reference of the sync in a clear and simple way.

 

[Wayne D]

having had to sync heaps of stuff - if you can record the sound on the set and then it is very easy to match waveforms in edit. even if it is a mic aimed at the speakers on set - i can not tell how many time the good ol' top mic has saved my but from hours of work.

for your off speed stuff just work out the speed% offset and then make according audio files to be played back on set - ramp back to 100% on speed in edit and you are good to go.

if you are havign trouble with cueing maybe braek down your storyboard and the cut the audio to suit each scene....

........my 2c's worth

 

[Matt Gottshalk]

Using Ipod as timecode slate.

 

[Dylan Reeve]

That's the one...