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HI
Please advice me , what tripod i shell buy for RED camera with whole set of accesories and cooke lenses.
Is 19 mm Arri base plate as a "mounting" standard, with 19 mm rods, ARRI MB II Mattebox, FF4 FF and of course batteries, EVF, and so on...
I think is more then 25 kg all together.
What do u suggest, what model of head and tripod?
I see many of U use oconnor, nay particular model i should pick up?

Best regards
MARTIN
 
oconner 2060hd would be the most popular head for that range.
 
We have a number of appropriate tripods in our "RED Store" on our website.
 
What would be the cost of oconner 2060hd
with tripods?
 
We don't post prices. Send me an email and we'll send you a quote.
 
cartoni C20s works great with my red one, even if i haven't tried it with a big 24-290 zoom.
price is in line with red revolution.
c40 is bigger, nicer, more expensive (and heavier).
i know the guys at Cartoni are now secretly working for something especially taylored for red ones, i think they are presenting it at IBC in Amsterdam.

www.cartoni.com
 
We are using Nikon lenses and just love our O'Connor 1030HDS. It holds everything just marvelously, and with weight capacity to spare, although the Nikon and Canon lenses aren't nearly as much of a load as the cine lenses.

Stephen
 
On my Miller Arrow 55 I've used everything in weight from an Optimo 24-290 (25 lb lens - 55 lb total load) down to minimum loads with a prime or RED 18-50 (approximately 20 lb loads) with excellent results all the way through the range. For monster loads above 55 lbs I use an O'Connor 2575, with excellent results.
 
Something to consider: O'conner has some WONDEFUL support options from RED via Element Technia.. I suggest you look into this aspect of the package before making a decision

Jay
 
Jay A. Kelley said:
Something to consider: O'conner has some WONDEFUL support options from RED via Element Technia.. I suggest you look into this aspect of the package before making a decision.
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The Element Technica 1030 series (9" and 12") ARRI Dovetail bases are fully compatible with the tripod head quickplates of Miller, Sachtler, and Cartoni.

Link: http://www.elementtechnica.com/products/
 
Gibby,

If I understand the ET site correctly, compatible means that you can attach the quick release plate of these heads to the ET plate using extra long screws supplied by ET..
But
if you get the 1080 or the 2060 or other sizes in that model, then the ET plate REPLACES the quick release plate.. To me, this has made a huge difference in speed and balance

Jay
 
I have noticed the 1030HDS is a very suitable head for RED but felt better naturally with a light set up, I would say its usable but pushing it with heavier configurations. I will most likely go with the Oconor 1030HDS because of its cost and size is better for run and gun, if you need studio set up then the 2060 is a great match. good luck.
 
Jay,

Perhaps...

I've been using the 1030 series ET ARRI Dovetail in 12" length for several months now with my Miller Arrow 55, and once the Miller plate is bolted onto the bottom of the ARRI Dovetail, with two screws of normal length, the Miller mini plate simply drops into the mini-plate receptacle on top of the tripod head. Forward/backward adjustment for balance of the load is easily adjustable two ways: 1) via the built-in sliding plate on the Miller head, below the mini-plate receptacle, or 2) alternately by releasing the lever on the left side of the ET ARRI bridge plate and sliding the camera/bridge plate combo backward or forward along the Dovetail.

Either way of balancing the load with that setup is quite quick, or you can use both for a longer travel distance in adjustments. Removal of the entire camera/ARRI bridge plate/ARRI dovetail is as simple as releasing the mini-plate lever below the back of the tripod head, and alternately to re-mount the package simply align the mini-plate on the bottom with the mini-plate receptacle and snap it in - again a very quick procedure.

I like the Miller setup and head. To me it feels like a better head action than the 1030 OConner or even the 2060 O'Connor, for a significant savings in cost.

But...to each their own...

I've used a lot of heads from O'Connor, Sachtler, and Vinten - and to me once you get above around $4.5k in cost they are all good heads - then I guess it's just a matter of personal preference.
 
Gibby said:
On my Miller Arrow 55 I've used everything in weight from an Optimo 24-290 (25 lb lens - 55 lb total load) down to minimum loads with a prime or RED 18-50 (approximately 20 lb loads) with excellent results all the way through the range. For monster loads above 55 lbs I use an O'Connor 2575, with excellent results.
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Gibby, talking strickly on performance, would you be comfortable using the 2575 on a load as light as 40lbs?

-Coz
 
Just from my experiences, the 2575 is somewhat overkill, but I would recommend it if you don't need to be mobile! I've had larger RED set-ups on the 2575 and it performed beautifully. By larger RED set-ups, I'm talking 24" rods (both RED Carbon X and ET's Ultra Rods) on bottom holding a RED Drive in a Ugrip mount on the back of the camera as well as two batteries via a Switronix dual battery mount attached to the RED quickplate. Up front, the Cooke 18-100 with a 6x6 mattebox.

I use the 12" 2060/2575 ET dovetail plates with my RED. I actually haven't tried the plate in either of those tripods. The 2575 head I've used already had another dovetail insert plate.

Anyway, the 12" 2060/2575 plate from ET works great on my Miller Arrow 55 as well -- Miller quickplate bolted to the bottom, very solid. It also works great on the ActionCam in place of their included cheeseplate for mounting the camera. Makes for quick and easy balance adjustments on the ActionCam when setting up and when I swap lenses.

This is starting to branch off topic, but the 12" dovetail plate was great for balancing the camera on a dolly-mounted Arrihead (geared head) with the Cooke zoom and a tele-prompter rig up front. ...Sorry for the crappy iPhone photo. This picture was taken when there was a smaller prime on the camera, 14mm Zeiss T2 if I recall, as indicated by the close proximity of the tele-prompter hood to the camera body. No battery mounted in this config, we were running off AC.
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Draegar said:
Gibby, talking strickly on performance, would you be comfortable using the 2575 on a load as light as 40lbs?

-Coz
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I'll second what Jeff Kilgroe posted...

In answer to your 2575/40 lb question, I think the 2575 would be overkill for that size load. Sure, the head would perform very good, but you'd pay a price in lack of mobility. The 2575 is a great head - but that comes at a price - and that price is call weight of the head. For stationary productions, if you have a 2575 available (like I do), then why not use it. But if your normal production genres call for any degree of mobility, and your loads are below 55 pounds, I recommend highly a head like the Miller Arrow 55.
 
I'd have to agree with Jeff and Steve
We use a 2575 (ET 18" 2060 plate)with our angineux hr 25-250 and it performs great but it's damn heavy.
We have a 7+7 as well but I have really fallen in love with the lighter weight of our 1030 head with the ET 1030 dovetail on carbon fiber sticks when we're moving fast.
-c
 
You can't go wrong with a 2575 as far as smoothness of panning tilting goes no matter what your camera weight. It is a myth that you need a certain weight for the head to work right. If you work off a dolly with hydraulic arm as I do in most shooting situations you can't do better than that.

As Gibby said, you pay the price in mobility in a run and gun situation. I own the 2575 but I have picked up a O'Connor 50 with O'Connor sticks and ball head for 270$ on ebay for the rare occasions where I need that mobility. This was last month and I didn't understand why no one but me bid on that setup...

I guess you need to start with the question:
-What is the majority of my shooting situation?
-What is my budget?

You go from there.
 
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