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#101 and I just returned from a month in Vancouver shooting 10 spots for Mattel's best girl Barbie. We shot nearly 1 Terabyte of 4K, 3K and 2K at frame rates ranging from 30 to 120 fps; shutter angles of 180 to 45; sync sound, green screen, water, talent, animals . . . you name it. We used all my lenses from the Innovision Probe II, Zeiss Standard primes, Angenieux 25-250 HR, 100 Macro, even an 8 - 63 Angenieux for some of the 2K 120 fps shots. Everything was shot on Build 15 2.2.5 on Hard drives with more than 125 Roll changes.
ZERO dropped frames, ZERO down time for the Camera, ZERO interruptions of production time. The system worked flawlessly!
The Director, Agency, Client and Production were thrilled with the images they saw on set and even more pleased with the final result. The integration of the camera into our workflow was seamless. Except for the incredibly crisp "Video Assist" images, everyone would have thought we were on a 35mm film shoot.
I was at the final telecine today in L.A. at SSI and the editor (not know for his enthusiasm or compliments) said this was the best stuff we have ever given him to work with. Scott, our long time colorist, was extremely pleased with the files. He said the green screen work was so clean . . . "Helen Keller could key these shots."
Our workflow on set was very efficient.My DAS used RedCine on my MacPro 8 Core with internal RAID to copy, check, scale and transcode the footage. RedCine never crashed, never balked, never slowed once. We are delivering in NTSC SD format so it was necessary to scale the shots to 720 x 486 and transcode to Uncompressed 10 bit Quicktime files to make a Digibeta tape for final telecine. The Quicktime files were sent to our on set assistant editor, using an almost identical MacPro system, who did a quick one lite color correct in FCP and then imported into the AVID (editor's choice) to begin almost immediate offline editing. A copy of the file was sent to a local post house to create the Digibeta which was sent to L.A. for telecine. All in all, a most workable solution.
The RED Team should be very proud of the camera system they have delivered. My compliments to all the members of the team who have worked so hard to make this dream a reality. I am anxiously looking forward to all the new innovations coming down the pipe.
 
I like these type of posts... I'll make sure everyone at RED reads it. Thanks.

Jim
 
Yeah this is definately great news Patrick... Im especially excited to see the probe footage.
 
Stories like this never get old. I can't wait to hear your next one...
 
Thanks Patrick - great story. Can't wait to here what you and #101 get up to next!

Graeme
 
This is what happens when seasoned Professionals use the Red One.

I had a similar experience shooting test plates for a network in Talladega this year.

Great images, great Super slow mo look at 102 frames!

Congratulations on a Job well done Patrick, I'm looking forward to seeing the spot, and so is my daughter!

Dave
 
How do you telecine a digibeta? Telecine = film to video transfer. :unsure: ?
 
thats awesome!! thanks for this! it is very encouraging. :)

have fun!


ps.. vancouver is rad.
 
great to hear.

How did you handle the downconvert to NTSC?
I've yet to solve the aliasing and jaggies going from RED 4k to NTSC
 
great to hear.

How did you handle the downconvert to NTSC?
I've yet to solve the aliasing and jaggies going from RED 4k to NTSC

Apply a little blur to the 4K/3K/2K before scaling down - the amount of blur controls the aliasing vs. smoothness ratio (this is the same concept as the OLPF). Some sharpening may be required on the NTSC result, just as with any film transfer to standard def.
 
great to hear.

How did you handle the downconvert to NTSC?
I've yet to solve the aliasing and jaggies going from RED 4k to NTSC

I did a lot of testing before the job concerning the donwnconvert to NTSC. Shooting at 23.98 or 24 there was always a small amount of jitter in the conversion no matter how we processed the footage. My solution was to use a 29.97 project base rate. This solved all of our problems. Every shot was smooth and crisp . . . no aliasing or jaggies whatsoever.
 
I've found that with high detail scenes down converting is a big problem in that in introduces aliasing to the point where the footage is unusable.
I've shot 29, 23 and 24 fps - its a scaling issue not a frames per second issue.

Its only when you view the footage on a CRT that you really see how harsh the issue is.

HD resolutions are fine its just SD.

Hopefully RED will address this issue and supply a downconvert to SD filter in REDCine.

I have heard you can have success using a hardware downconverter or routing the signal through a VTR.
 
Thanks for that cool post. love hearing other REDHEADS making it work!
 
I was just at SSI yesterday. I love that place. Scott's hilariously innappropriate comment has me chucking after having just read it. That sounds like him.

I'm happy to hear that the workflow was so smooth for you guys.
 
seems like mattel may be falling for red on not just barbie, we did 4 days with them last week on pixars cars lic products...and they loved the results...

it is a big deal for them to be on board. thanks to a lot of hard work by a lot of individuals...thanks guys for doing all the demos.
 
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