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Nick Gardner

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Dear Red Team,

Do you have any plans for a scan reverse function? I imagine it would be a very simple software change, and would be a hell of a usefull feature for steadicam operators.

Anyone else interested? Maybe post Build 16? It's a major time saver going to low mode.

Thanks,

Nick
 
Definitely agree. Even though the cheeseplate options make low mode easier, Just inverting the already balanced sled is so much faster. Done this many times with F900's and Varicams, and inverted the image in post, but it was always a "deal with a later" scenario. Would be an excellent addition and such a feature would be hugely appreciated
 
I suppose the camera's heat management wouldn't agree. I think the RED ONE isn't built to work upside down for a prolonged period.
 
bummer. How long is a prolonged period I wonder?
 
Actually, being able to "flip" the image on the monitor would be very useful.
For example, I was at a live event this past Saturday with 2 Red One cameras. At one point one of my camera operators wanted to try shooting something handheld because the object was moving very rapidly and very far.
I had only the basic production pack, so we couldn't do it. The problem was that you can't get the LCD monitor far enough in front of the operator for him to focus on it. Turning the monitor upside down allowed the monitor to be place far enough away, but then the operator was surpised when I told him that there was no such feature in the camera to allow flipping the image up side down.
It did occur to me later that I might have been able to turn the top handle around facing forward and screwed the "arm" into the end of the handle. Of course then you wouldn't be able to pick up the camera my the handle, you would have to use both hands: One on the handle and one on the rails behind the camera near the Red cradle.
I have since tried it and that does work, but it would frequently convenient to flip the monitor image.
 
Oops! Keith was still logged in on this machine and I didn't notice. I posted the above message. Sorry Keith!
 
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km9000 said:
Actually, being able to "flip" the image on the monitor would be very useful.
For example, I was at a live event this past Saturday with 2 Red One cameras. At one point one of my camera operators wanted to try shooting something handheld because the object was moving very rapidly and very far.
I had only the basic production pack, so we couldn't do it. The problem was that you can't get the LCD monitor far enough in front of the operator for him to focus on it. Turning the monitor upside down allowed the monitor to be place far enough away, but then the operator was surpised when I told him that there was no such feature in the camera to allow flipping the image up side down.
It did occur to me later that I might have been able to turn the top handle around facing forward and screwed the "arm" into the end of the handle. Of course then you wouldn't be able to pick up the camera my the handle, you would have to use both hands: One on the handle and one on the rails behind the camera near the Red cradle.
I have since tried it and that does work, but it would frequently convenient to flip the monitor image.
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Because the fact i have still no EVF i made a small construction on my matbox to put the red LCD as far as posilbly and bought a special reading glass +5 for my right eye and so i shoot a 10 day documentary for dutch broadcast handheld and my eyes close to the red LCD with a cushing under the camera because i don't received a dove tail yet. I only work for this job with a 50mm arri-zeiss 2.1 lens wich is very small so the matbox is still close to me.

I would also prefer a flipped image on the LCD for many other reasens.

Robert
 
Can you explain the term "scan reverse"? I have never heard that phrase used in this context before.

-shooter
 
Funny.
Last night, while you guys were posting this, Jerry Holway and I were helping the VTR guy physically flip all the monitors on set so he could get a nice low-mode shot, using his rig inverted.
Later, our DAM (who was not on set when we did this) came up to me and said, "did you guys do something to make the picture upside-down???" Funny...
Being able to flip "in camera" would be REALLY nice. Don't know how easy this is to implement though.
Cheers,
Harry
 
Can you explain the term "scan reverse"? I have never heard that phrase used in this context before.
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Scan reverse just turns the picture upside down when recorded. I believe it first started being added to HD cameras when people were using the P&S 35mm adapter, but then steadicam ops started using it for a quik switch to low mode - just invert the rig instead of re mounting the camera. This had been done on 35mm film jobs for TV, but the image had to be flipped in post, and all the monitors on set physically flipped upside down.

Nick
 
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