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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Epic...

Silentwave said:
My only question is what happens to the trade-in cameras?
Upgraded, refurbished, and turned around at a slight discount?
Might be a nice way for some of us to get (first or extra) some more Red Ones
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Change RED ones to 3D camera systems are not a bad idea in 2009 !!!
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Silentwave said:
My only question is what happens to the trade-in cameras?
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Could I suggest that the trade-in cameras be donated to various film schools? Might as well start 'em young.

This might be a nice use for the pre-X versions of the initial cameras as well.

I know my alma mater (Ryerson U. in Toronto) would appreciate a few!
 
Maybe I'll start a film school... :innocent:

But still a good question. What will happen to those RED's traded in? Reconditioned, upgraded and re-sold? Rental pool? I suppose just about anything is possible.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
Maybe I'll start a film school... :innocent:

But still a good question. What will happen to those RED's traded in? Reconditioned, upgraded and re-sold? Rental pool? I suppose just about anything is possible.
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Jeff,

I think you should start a film school (can you do it in Ashland, Orygun?).
I ran the tech ops for the one at UCLA for five years or so and would be glad to help. I'm also good at advising co-eds on their projects. Let me know how I can lend a hand or two.
 
VFS - Vancouver: I graduated in 2000. We shot in SD and on Arri SR1s at the time. We got our final reels on VHS! Now they're up to HD, super16 and DVDs. The good thing about this school is that they offer positions to street kids and others less fortunate than those that can afford the actual tuition. WOW!
What a RED ONE could do in the classroom!
 
I attended VFS in 1997, We shot on 16BLs, I got a crappy VHS transfer too but if your cinematography instructor was Ricky Choi and you were friends with him you might have gotten a print of your film from Alpha Cine.

I still think film (especially reversal, even if it's super8) is a better teaching tool for cinematography. It teaches you to use a light meter, expose consistently, correctly, the handling of contrast. If I went to film school again today I'd rather be learning on film than on digital. I learned to cut film on a Steenbeck and even though I had NLE experience, I truly believe it made me a better editor.

With regards as to what happens to the traded in Red Ones, I don't see why they wouldn't be sold as "overhauled" Red Ones.
 
When other manufacturers enable trade-ins a lot of previous generation items are sold in lower tier tech markets. Avid for example would sell older meridian systems taken on trade in south and central america while selling new DNx systems in the states, europe, etc. Or the older systems are shelved and used for parts to support older systems before EOL.
 
Jannard said:
Just in case it wasn't clear... all RED ONE owners have 1st crack a getting an Epic when it is released. All RED ONE owners will be given the opportunity to get an Epic by trading in their RED ONE (at full $17,500 value). You can trade in your RED ONE, keep your RED ONE and buy an Epic, or pass altogether... in the order RED ONEs were shipped. We believe in taking care of the ones the believed in our program from the beginning.

Jim
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Extremely generous trade-in program...much appreciated...

I have seven RED ONE cameras now. Put me down for eight EPIC cameras. Since you are graciously taking care of the RED ONE adopters who want EPIC in order of when their cameras shipped, then Offhollywood is the only one in line ahead of me. He has said on another thread that he wants six EPIC cameras. Not bad eh - a total of 14 EPIC cameras wanted by just the first two RED ONE owners. I'm salivating over the possibilities with EPIC. I'm also salivating over Scarlet - I'll buy at least ten Scarlet. Then there's RED Ray - my head has been swimming with ways to integrate RED Ray into our facilities.

Thanks RED Team for all the hard work and killer products...scores of us out here are way stoked with your vision and products...
 
Seven... send me on one and you can have my new one coming! I Have a production next week!

I will trade in for a Epic as well - An offer you can't refuse.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
Maybe I'll start a film school... :innocent:

But still a good question. What will happen to those RED's traded in? Reconditioned, upgraded and re-sold? Rental pool? I suppose just about anything is possible.
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I wish my school Florida A&M University had a film school, alot of students have been asking for one. But Florida State University is right next door taking like "10" students a year.
 
Thank you very much, John!!
I feel better after your words and believe in RED every day more.....
I will be in line for a Scarlet and at least one Epic as soon as available, count on it!
Cheers
 
Jim, the way you handle the business should be a role model to others.
Your generous and faithful to your"clients", and I am sure you've never seen us as plain clients either:)
Red in my hands is opening a lot of doors, it changes everything.
I just shot red side by side with 35mm film.
the footage is going to Spirit for comparison.
Here is the example from Red. I'll have the comparison coming up shortly.

http://www.yayofilms.com/clients/michelin/final_test_michelin_red.mov

Thanks Jim
 
Gibby said:
Extremely generous trade-in program...much appreciated...

I have seven RED ONE cameras now. Put me down for eight EPIC cameras. Since you are graciously taking care of the RED ONE adopters who want EPIC in order of when their cameras shipped, then Offhollywood is the only one in line ahead of me. He has said on another thread that he wants six EPIC cameras. Not bad eh - a total of 14 EPIC cameras wanted by just the first two RED ONE owners. I'm salivating over the possibilities with EPIC. I'm also salivating over Scarlet - I'll buy at least ten Scarlet. Then there's RED Ray - my head has been swimming with ways to integrate RED Ray into our facilities.

Thanks RED Team for all the hard work and killer products...scores of us out here are way stoked with your vision and products...
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I just drooled over having the thought of having 7 RED's, let alone 8 Epics
 
Silentwave said:
My only question is what happens to the trade-in cameras?
Upgraded, refurbished, and turned around at a slight discount?
Might be a nice way for some of us to get (first or extra) some more Red Ones
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The 'trade in' cameras are rebuilt with build 35/36 to shoot 1080p ONLY.
Sold to Sony who 'rebadge' them, then resell them for $120K+ as the
new 'RAWalta' 5.25K1080p 35mm FOV Digital Cinema Camera. Many unsuspecting RAW heads purchase them before the SCAM is uncovered..
Offhollywood buy two.
Mezmo
 
Hi Jim, my name is Jon Myers, I'm a Steadicam operator. I was looking at the pictures of the Epic and I had a couple of questions. Are the proportions of the camera going to be close to the picture? Would you have some kind of guestimate on weight? To me it would seem that if it's going to be much lighter than the RED ONE and shorter (front to back) we might have some balance issues with it being too short. I have flown the RED on several occasions and it flies very nicely, at least I think so. Thank you for your time.

Jon
 
Shorter is better for other things like motion control rigs. Can't they redesign the steadicam or ad weights to top stage? I'm sure the weight comes in at 8 pounds.
 
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