4K to ProRes went to crap!!!!

[Kenn Michael]

I think Stuart is pointing out his issues with the ProRes codec, not Red or R3D footage.

 

[Thundercross]

I know.

 

[Kenn Michael]

wasn't directed at you Thundercross.

 

[timecodemultimedia]

I think Stuart is pointing out his issues with the ProRes codec, not Red or R3D footage.

Yeah!!!!! At least someone got it right!

Why are a few of you guys so touchy about RED stuff anyway? It's not Jesus' second coming you know?
It just one more technonology break through that will be replace by something else. Like everything else.

Hope you don't get all touchy again...
I'm just trying to help the Red community by sharing our experiences with the mainstream professional work we do at our studio.

Above anything, we love indie professional work and that's why from myself to our KICK_ASS rates, we are one of the best.™

 

[Gunleik Groven]

I tried to say that, but your phrasing was better... _) LOL

G

 

[Joel Kaye]

Hope you don't get all touchy again...

One guy mentioned RED footage. Who's being touchy?

 

[Jonas Nyström]

I'm so far from a Color master you can be - but I must say I'm not in love with Color. My feeling when I'm working in color is that the output always is a bit harsh. Is it due to ProRes?

Graeme help us!!

 

[Rocco Schult]

Remember that Prores is a highly compressed format.
UC10bit is till compressed as is 4:2:2 and not 4:4:4, but a lot less than Prores.

It just sucks that prores is not the "miracle" codec as Apple wants it to be.

For the compression ratio ProRes has, it is indeed a little miracle. Though I must say, I never read 'miracle' anywhere.

Btw, 4:2:2 has nothing to with compression. Its color sampling, not even color resolution or the like, just - sampling.

 

[eskatonia]

I'd like to emphasize that there's been NO reduction to 8bit. All renders were done in high precision YUV.

Are you sure of this? Just because the "render in high precision" color box is ticked does not mean that FCP is capable of doing all the effects you asked it to do in high precision.

see my article here for a list of which built in effects can render in high precision:
http://www.coremelt.com/support/wor...online-workflow-with-final-cut-pro-6.0.2.html

if you had many layers of compositing and 4 passes recompression then anyway yes you are past the limits of what pro res can handle. In my own tests ProRes holds up quite well with two passes (one for the edit and one for a grade with vignettes etc). more than that and you should definately use an uncompressed codec or cineform.

 

[timecodemultimedia]

In my own tests ProRes holds up quite well with two passes (one for the edit and one for a grade with vignettes etc). more than that and you should definately use an uncompressed codec or cineform.

Yeap! Some of us knew - some others didn't. Two passes, I mentioned that a few posts ago. Unfortunately, it wasn't our choice to go Prores. You deal with what you are given.