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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Red to Film

Some of "Jumper" was shot on a RED. In June, "Wanted" will be out in theaters, and that was shot on a RED ONE.

P.S. If anyone wants to invite me to a screening too, I'll definitely go.
 
Tenshredd7 said:
Some of "Jumper" was shot on a RED. In June, "Wanted" will be out in theaters, and that was shot on a RED ONE.

P.S. If anyone wants to invite me to a screening too, I'll definitely go.
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I thought just VFX shots/plates were shot with RED for WANTED?
Jumper only used the RED for 2nd unit and VFX plates.
 
I was in Vienna about 1 month ago where was a theatrical screening. They showed us a music video shot on RED. There was 2 versions. One was 35mm and the other was completely digital.
This is my oppinion:
You could compare the 35mm and RED, and the 35mm and the digital cinema technology. The RED performed very well, provided clean picture and no noise/grain. The 35mm had a default grain and had more contrast.
But the RED had 35mm looklike. It was not too sharp, and undersaturated. So the RED was better:D

There is a thread about the screening in Vienna:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=7561&page=3&highlight=vienna
 
Zakaree said:
yes, red has been put to film a few times. however.. I have not been fortunate to see it yet. if anyone wants to invite me to a screening, I will go!
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To right brother ! i would love to see this as well !.....quite an elegant marriage i should expect ! I'm aware of some of the major motion pictures incorporating red footage, but i would love to see something on a more intimate level such as an indi or local production, not sure how cost effective this could be though. I'm supposing the smaller market, at least, should stay with digital projection as would be a rare case outside of the movie cinemas to see red footage on film. Cant wait to see a major motion picture shot its entirety with Red ....that will be a block buster whatever it is ....have no doubt. it should be called "Snow white and the Red dwarfs"
 
We're doing a screening in Paris in a few weeks in a major theater to show 5mn of Red footage digitally and then the same 5mn transfered to film. All I can tell you is that to my opinion the Red will definitely benefit from being transfered to film for theatrical venues. Check our website next week for info regarding that screening.
 
Arno said:
We're doing a screening in Paris in a few weeks in a major theater to show 5mn of Red footage digitally and then the same 5mn transfered to film. All I can tell you is that to my opinion the Red will definitely benefit from being transfered to film for theatrical venues. Check our website next week for info regarding that screening.
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very nice would love to see this! i don't like to use this word but i guess you could call it a "comparison"... no... lets stick with fusion !
i guess its a bit like the audio industry whereby you had the new digital technologies breaking through It was "purists" who preferred the analog due to the fact it felt as though the sound had lost its "warmth" today we see both in matrimony which is great.... so many more options to express yourself
 
We´ve printed to film a comparisson red vs f900 vs varicam.

Red looked good. In fact, if the print is good the footage looks the same as when we watched the footage in the computer. So there is no big difference besides the artifacts that film introduces (abit of grain, dust and flickering).

The Red showed some strobe. Something people here doesn´t seem to notice.
 
Tenshredd7 said:
Some of "Jumper" was shot on a RED. In June, "Wanted" will be out in theaters, and that was shot on a RED ONE.

P.S. If anyone wants to invite me to a screening too, I'll definitely go.
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yeah i saw this movie "jumper" the other day , i didn't come away with the greatest memories of the film ...had i known it was using Red at that point i'd have watched much more intently ...now its like my favorite movie thus far (the whole red factor) it breathes new life into an aspiring filmmaker like myself .
 
Khristian said:
Care to elaborate ?
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What I saw was tests for 2 Scandinavian features to be made on RED. The test was RED VS FUJI and as soon as the RED hits the celluloid it looks like film, actually to my opinion even better.

My preference will always be to make a print of the material (or at least as often as I can) just to get some of the grain, which will provide you with that "film look".

fred
 
weirdcrew said:
What I saw was tests for 2 Scandinavian features to be made on RED. The test was RED VS FUJI and as soon as the RED hits the celluloid it looks like film, actually to my opinion even better.

My preference will always be to make a print of the material (or at least as often as I can) just to get some of the grain, which will provide you with that "film look".

fred
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Hi Fred,

Do you mean like a Film Intermediate as a grading step before scanning back off the film for the deliverables?

Interesting, maybe the film intermediate will be for HD production what the DI is for 35mm shoots.

I like the clean look of HD but maybe people are not ready for the look... might take a few years for people to associate HD with long format storytelling.
 
Laser or LCD?

Laser or LCD?

weirdcrew said:
What I saw was tests for 2 Scandinavian features to be made on RED. The test was RED VS FUJI and as soon as the RED hits the celluloid it looks like film, actually to my opinion even better.
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Do you remember if it was done in 2k or 4k? With an Arrilaser 4k/Definity(LCD 2,5k)/Lasergraphics Producer (4k)...?

Thanks.

Pat
 
Recently I've done film-out for a commercial I have shot for national release here in Germany.

Since we did a DI (1080p, Arrilaser) as we did before with 35mm footage I could not notify anything new or different in the cinema. RED has the DOF of 35mm and not more noise/grain, at least in 1080p. You cannot tell that this was shot digitally. The grain in the 35mm print hides any possible digital "artefacts" that might have been somewhere.

RED is as good as 35mm for film-out. In a side by side comparison featuring the same shots there will be differences because 35mm and RED will lead to different DIs. There are some advantages of 35mm in the DI-process (eg. better highlight shoulder...).

Please note that in the cinema resolution is considerably less than in the DI-suite. DI 1080p/2K, cinema max. 720p. For anyone who saw the footage on a decent 2K projector before the cinema experience will be disappointing. Sound in the cinema is a different beast though. And cinema is all about sound, isn't it?

Hans
 
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