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Best Stockhouse for Timelapse/Stock Footage?

Thanks. After talking to quite a few people I am probably going to put my own site up and sell my clips directly. But I guess I might also be able to place the clips on other sites as well, if there were no issues with exclusivity and price differences.

What I really want to do is shoot timelapes for features. The timelapse shots in Jesse James, for example, got a lot of attention. I'd love to do stuff like that. Maybe I will mail Malick my reel and volunteer for Tree of Life. :)
 
stock rep said:
Hi,

Relevant Motion is a start-up motion content stock agency developing a 4k/RED footage line. We handle all subjects and styles. If you have any material or questions please write to:

info@relevantmotion.com

www.relevantmotion.com
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Why H..264?? That is a final playback viewing Codec not an editing codec.
H.264 will not work with for example Vegas Video. And you would have to transcode to a native codec in Final Cut Pro to edit. You really need to get submitters to submit at the very least Photo-Jpeg and Pro Res should be available to FCP users. I edit and buy stock footage from just about every house you can name. Some deliver better than others. No one has a lock on a perfect solution yet. All I know is when I need a clip I need it like yesterday because of the fickle clients I work with. Waiting 72 hours would a non-starter much less 72 minutes!!!

LOL
 
Red Guy said:
Why H..264?? That is a final playback viewing Codec not an editing codec.
H.264 will not work with for example Vegas Video. And you would have to transcode to a native codec in Final Cut Pro to edit. You really need to get submitters to submit at the very least Photo-Jpeg and Pro Res should be available to FCP users. I edit and buy stock footage from just about every house you can name. Some deliver better than others. No one has a lock on a perfect solution yet. All I know is when I need a clip I need it like yesterday because of the fickle clients I work with. Waiting 72 hours would a non-starter much less 72 minutes!!!

LOL
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Red Guy, can you tell us what the best and most common delivery formats are for someone like you who buys and works with a lot of stock footage? I don't think I can output Pro Res, since I am on a PC.

Here are the options Premiere Pro CS3 gives me for quicktime:

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Can anyone who works with Getty Footage tell me how the deal typically works? Once you upload your clips there, do they have total exclusivity? It seems like once you put a clip up there, it's pretty much out of your hands for a specified amount of time?

Here is what their contract says:

The Representation Agreement

Once both filmmaker and Getty Images express mutual interest in representation, we will offer the Producers’ Agreement. This is an image exclusive agreement whereby Getty Images agrees to market the artist’s footage through its worldwide network of offices. The main points of the contract are as follows*:

Term
5 years with an automatic 5 year renewal

Image Exclusivity
Getty Images will have sole right to market Producer’s footage. Producer agrees not to place footage with any other agency during the term of contract with us.
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Would this prevent me from marketing myself to do custom timelapse shots for movies and music videos?

EDIT: I just spoke with getty and they said it would be okay to use my clips for other projects and to do custom shots, etc, but the only thing they ask is that I don't submit similar material to any other stock sites.
 
Tom said:
Red Guy, can you tell us what the best and most common delivery formats are for someone like you who buys and works with a lot of stock footage? I don't think I can output Pro Res, since I am on a PC.

Here are the options Premiere Pro CS3 gives me for quicktime:

optionsin9.gif
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After a lot of experimentation, we use PhotoJPEG at 95 to 100%. Excellent quality for editing and archiving.

Phil
www.artbeats.com
 
Red Guy said:
Why H..264?? That is a final playback viewing Codec not an editing codec.
H.264 will not work with for example Vegas Video. And you would have to transcode to a native codec in Final Cut Pro to edit. You really need to get submitters to submit at the very least Photo-Jpeg and Pro Res should be available to FCP users. I edit and buy stock footage from just about every house you can name. Some deliver better than others. No one has a lock on a perfect solution yet. All I know is when I need a clip I need it like yesterday because of the fickle clients I work with. Waiting 72 hours would a non-starter much less 72 minutes!!!

LOL
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Red Guy

LOL?

Read it again, 72 hours is the turn around for vetting into the collection through an upload portal. Delivery time is immediate.
 
stock rep said:
Red Guy

LOL?

Read it again, 72 hours is the turn around for vetting into the collection through an upload portal. Delivery time is immediate.
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LOL, I re-read it, thanks. Just was not very clear.
But I still go back to why H.264??
As Phil said from ArtBeats - PhotoJpeg is what I prefer
because the quality is good and it will work with any NLE.
A lot of footage on the cheap sites (istockvideo - revostock)
are kinda hit and miss. They let the shooters upload
wahtever without regard to quality. I guess you do get what
you pay for.

And Tom - 5 years with an AUTOMATIC 5 year renewal?? What is the out??
 
Red Guy said:
LOL, I re-read it, thanks. Just was not very clear.
But I still go back to why H.264??
As Phil said from ArtBeats - PhotoJpeg is what I prefer
because the quality is good and it will work with any NLE.
A lot of footage on the cheap sites (istockvideo - revostock)
are kinda hit and miss. They let the shooters upload
wahtever without regard to quality. I guess you do get what
you pay for.

And Tom - 5 years with an AUTOMATIC 5 year renewal?? What is the out??
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Wierd, I could not edit my last reply. OK I did go back and look at your website. You have changed it to PhotoJpeg.
 
Red Guy said:
And Tom - 5 years with an AUTOMATIC 5 year renewal?? What is the out??
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I don't know. I gotta find out. They sent me a ton of paperwork and contracts to fill out.

I could easily put up my own website, but my fear is that I will always have to be tied to a computer to deliver footage in a hurry when people need clips. Plus I don't know anything about the business end of all this - including contracts with buyers, lawyers, etc. I figure if I put my stuff at Getty, I can go out for weeks at a time and just concentrate on shooting, rather than trying to run a website as well.


One thing I wonder about - will Getty let buyers contact me directly or through them if the buyer wants the clip slightly modified? Someone might want a virtual pan, or a different color correction, etc, and I'm probably the only one who can do it.
 
?? - I have only had experience with the micro sites.
My fear is that yes you may get some nice sales at Getty -
in the long run who knows? Many of the agencies I work with
try to find the cheapest stuff they can and mark it up.
You know Getty owns istockvideo.com - seems like they
have a strategy of controlling the high and low end.
I have seen some of your work and you are probably
national/international TV spot material.

Maybe you should talk with Clark over at Mammoth before pulling the trigger?
 
Stock Footage by Red

Stock Footage by Red

I own the stock house : America By Air Stock Footage Library.
50% of the library is shot by me (mostly aerials). The other half is from people like yourself who tend to specialize. We have some significant work in our library and will keep it that way.

As a shooter, I personally don't recommend anyone doing an exclusive as you just become one of thousands of suppliers to corporate industries who really don't care about the people who create, just those who dominate the sales.

We represent people who do great work and focus on that work and getting that work into the market, licensed properly protecting the footage owner while making money for both parties with a 50/50 split at all times. Our recent expansion and a new searchable web site in the coming months will enhance our exposure which is world wide, but the bottom line is still focus on the work not the technology.
We have some awesome timelapse work in the library but would like to add to that if its the right stuff. We do a lot of work with studios and features.

We have a Red on order and will be shooting it the first time next week.

If I can help demystify the issues about stock footage representation then please feel free to call (absolutley no strings attached).
I can be contacted at
americabyair@mac.com or tel.561 540 8835.

Douglas Kahan
www.americabyair.com
 
Independent stock footage sales?

Independent stock footage sales?

Hi Tom,

I am new to this forum, but we are working to offer 2k download files for footage shot on RED.

At the moment, we offer them in the ProresHQ codec.

We are working to build the amount of independent RED content offered to our customers, and we do not require any form of exclusivity.

Also, you get a 60% proceed from sales.

You can visit us at http://www.clipcanvas.com

If you decide to get in touch with us, I would be happy to provide you with some more information.

Kind regards,

Cato
 
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