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Jochen Schmidt-Hambrock

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If the only way in the RED -> AVID workflow is to extract the audio from the QT proxies, then the editor has to manually line up the audio in the AVID, right?

That means using a clap board on location.

How are you guys handling the shoot when its going to be edited on an AVID?
When you want to use the in-camera audio?

Jochen
 
You should be able to add the timecode with the metacheater utility.

From my experience ALWAYS clap!

It does take a litte longer but saves your ass every time, because TC DOES fuck up occasionally, and syncing by lip reading suck.
 
Avid?
What the heck is an Avid?

Is it related in any way or similar to that mythical dinosaur I keep hearing about called a 'windows based PC' ? ? ?
 
First thing that comes up for "AVID" on wikipedia:

AVID was developed in 1980 by Mary Catherine Swanson, who was an English teacher in Clairemont High School at San Diego, California, in order to assist an influx of academically less prepared students ....
 
Omnius said:
Avid?
What the heck is an Avid?

Is it related in any way or similar to that mythical dinosaur I keep hearing about called a 'windows based PC' ? ? ?
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C'mon guys .. fair play.

Having used the majority of NLE's out there I can tell you that once you become proficient with AVID you can cut faster and more efficiently than pretty much anything else out there..

Sure FCP is great and cheap etc etc ... that's truly awesome, but we don't use anything other than AVID out our facility, and it's for a reason.
 
Why not use a slate? EVERY production I have ever worked on has used some sort of slate.
And editors (or their assistants) SHOULD be able to sync audio.
Maybe I'm missing your point?
 
Seth Larney said:
C'mon guys .. fair play.

Having used the majority of NLE's out there I can tell you that once you become proficient with AVID you can cut faster and more efficiently than pretty much anything else out there..

Sure FCP is great and cheap etc etc ... that's truly awesome, but we don't use anything other than AVID out our facility, and it's for a reason.
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Seth -
I can't say I have used every NLE out there, but I did learn NLE's on AVID. I would rather go back to splicing film than to sit at another AVID.
Now back to RED stuff...
 
Dominic Cochran said:
I can't believe it took four posts before someone made a moronic non sequitur about Avid. Folks must be getting more tolerant here lately!
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Touchy touchy

Things to Remember:

Humor NOT allowed near avid users

Omnius

AVID LIQUID PRO user and FCP user

Prefers FCP
 
If you don't prefer FCP over Liquid then there is REALLY something wrong with you, Liquid isn't exactly a professional solution.

And humor is good, I actually found it hilarious AND unbelievable that it took a Final Cut zealot almost an hour to jump in.
 
kowboy said:
Why not use a slate? EVERY production I have ever worked on has used some sort of slate.
And editors (or their assistants) SHOULD be able to sync audio.
Maybe I'm missing your point?
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A clap-board IS a slate. It's just a different way of saying it.
 
kowboy said:
Seth -
I can't say I have used every NLE out there, but I did learn NLE's on AVID. I would rather go back to splicing film than to sit at another AVID.
Now back to RED stuff...
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It always amazes me that fellow Mac users don't require an editing solution that , to use Apple's words, "just works". We spent a lot of money to build a top notch FCP system, and it just has WAY more glitches than our Mac-based Avids. I've always been an Apple fan, but Final Cut just doesn't work as well in a mission-critical environment. I'm sure on a feature film edit it would be fine since you have more time to deal with figuring out why something isn't working. But on a commercial or music video edit with the client and deadline breathing down our neck, I'll take the rock-solid system any day.
 
Keep clapping until Red implements an internal digital smart slate...the biggest thing is going to be to convince your audio guy to record 23.98 time code...not 24 not 29.97.... 23.976.'
 
I worked in both an Avid (Adrenaline) and FCP5 (current version at the time) labs for about 2 years while in college and from my experience the avids seemed to be more finicky and tempermental. Each machine operated differently and each machine seemed to do one thing great and not do something else out. It was almost like each one had it's own mind and temperament.

A lot of times I think people sit at one system that they are not used to working with and it's easy to blame things on bugs or glitches. I did it too when I first sat down at at Avid.

I think at this point in a perfect world the question comes down the editor preference and ease of use for that person or project.

Just my thought.. And I agree it's hard to not be biased.
 
It's a waste of time to get religious about your tools.
No tool is perfect and both AVID and Apple's tools have strengths, weaknesses and both have a fair share of annoying bugs.
Exactly how much of these you'll get exposed to varies greatly depending on the operations you tend to perform while using them.
 
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