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100 REDs are going back. A piece of film history that should be preserved!!!

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With the new PL mount, the RED Cinema Company stated, that they will replace all of the 100 initial cameras.

Do I understand it right, that there will be 100 RED "alphas" going back to the shelfs of the RED headquarters?

If so, I strongly plead not to disassemble or "refabricate" all of them to later serial numbers.
I hear the outcry of the RED believers, waiting in the line, but I think, that this is more important.

Some of these machines should be preserved for the generations to come. I see them in art museums, in museums of technology around the globe, behind bullet-proof glass exhibited in filmschools, admired by students of film history.

I see Mark L. Pederson, as a grandfather showing his grandson the RED #6 in the New York Technological Museum. The little is asking in amazement:
"And you were really among the first guys, who was shooting with it?" "Yes, this is the first commercial available model and it shoot 2 feature films." And the eyes of the grandson will be filled with silent pride.

I see some day Mr. Jannard's Prague model exhibited in the National Technical Museum in Prague, the very museum I visited dozens of times as a little boy. And when my grandson will ask me about the name, I will answer:
"Well, this great man, just loved this great city." - And I will be proud as well.

We relive in this century the digital analogy of what happened when Mr. Edison presented his Kinetograph around 1880. In my eyes Mr. Jannard is the Edison of the 21st century in the cinematographic area. He is writing the history of film right now.

The value of those first 100 cameras cannot be determinated. Every owner of those is the very first believer in the RED project, those who trusted a vision, that was too radical to be believed. These machines are unique, because the experience with them lead to a redesign. They are the first step in the RED ONE walk of fame. The are the RED ONE ones. Therefore, they should get the attention, they deserve.

I may point out something, that is maybe obvious, but as an European who takes the history's lessons serious, I do not want to get those "historic" jewels of technology lost in the stream of the ongoing and breathtaking development.
 
I don't mean to denigrate your efforts, nor what you've achieved, but Jonas was being a little googly-eyed.

and let him be. it shouldn't concern anyone else, but him, right?

Jonas said:
The value of those first 100 cameras cannot be determinated. Every owner of those is the very first believer in the RED project, those who trusted a vision, that was too radical to be believed. These machines are unique, because the experience with them lead to a redesign. They are the first step in the RED ONE walk of fame. The are the RED ONE ones. Therefore, they should get the attention, they deserve.

One other thing I would like to add to what Jonas said is that there are many others out there, like myself, who have followed the project passionately from the beginning and would have had one of the first reservations if we had the budget for it. Many people in this unique community have contributed to this amazing project, even those who can't afford a reservation at this point in time. :)

These are truly interesting times. I agree that this is historic, and in time, we just might be able to look back on this with a sense of contribution.
 
Being one of the few that actually own one of the first one hundred, I'll admit I was a bit sad at hearing they were going to completely replace the units entirely as opposed to an internal upgrade. Obviously though, it's a completely irrational feeling, considering we're getting what's looking to be a vastly improved camera system and the turnaround on a replacement will be far, far quicker than an actual upgrade. At least we get to keep a little badge of honor (or insanity?) in the form of an "X" series serial.
 
I am a big fan of camera history and share Jonas' feelings. Boris and Natasha are at the head of the RED museum. We are keeping track of the progress of RED through the cameras. Trust me when I say it matters to me. I understand it may not matter to some and they are "just cameras". Not to "this guy". Soderbergh became emotionally attached to the 4 prototypes he used to shoot "Guerrilla" and "The Argentine" so I know I am not alone.

Jim
 
red #0031 represented tonight at the Plastercity RED event, hundreds and hundreds of hollywood elite production and post people witnessed the new RED reel and the work of the first 100 days of the first 100 cameras, it was truly remarkable.

i am not looking forward to giving this baby up. not at all. it works perfectly and the imagery is unbelievable. but but but....
 
"I understand it may not matter to some and they are "just cameras". Not to "this guy"."

What do you mean by saying this? Don't you think everone in the line, waiting patiently for months, many of us putting in our own money, is not devoted enough to RED?

Jim, you are not alone - I love my cameras - and I'm shure I will love my RED the most. And I love your great work, it is a revolution. But still, it is great camera, not a new religion.
 
"I understand it may not matter to some and they are "just cameras". Not to "this guy"."

What do you mean by saying this? Don't you think everone in the line, waiting patiently for months, many of us putting in our own money, is not devoted enough to RED?

Jim, you are not alone - I love my cameras - and I'm shure I will love my RED the most. And I love your great work, it is a revolution. But still, it is great camera, not a new religion.


Yep,

and certain forms and interpretations of religions don't fit well with cameras at all. Many religions deny making images from poeple, not to talk making images of their god(s) respectively.

What new religion would that be anyway, "Mad Scientology" :) ???

I do respect relgious poeple to a certain grade, but pronouncing the word "certain" here... On other forums this usually doesn't turn into real religious but so called "platform war" scenarious if taken tooo personal. Clearly sometimes is even business very similar to war (hopefully none gets really bodywise injured) but in my experience argumenting on such doesn't help. The "thing" must stand for itself and shine alone. If it accomplishes that task - even if only for a few fools - its ok, its outstanding. But please don't get so deep to become religious to "things" (even when we all call them "baby" at some point :) ). We may love those "things" (without argueing about the parametrics of love here) but better is to stay away of getting religious. Many "things" get obsolete in their use at some point, that could hurt more if you are too religious about it.

Hope I did not offend anybody with this small excurse...

Bottom line to me: These devices are of historic value to document technical achievements that may excite many people interested in such things, as much as anything that gets developed. Some "things" have more influents to many (many watches hollywood movies, so surely this "RED ONE" "thing" is one of them), others are such niche products that they get quickly forgotten by the masses. Keep them in good condition, as you would do e.g. with a historic car or the like.

Axel
 
Jesus, it's just a camera.

Oh please!!!! since when did it become a "googly eyed" event to express your true feelings about anything? I'm so sick n tired of folks like you, denigrating folks like Jonas for expressing themselves, moreso, when they're speaking from a historical/anthropological perspective.

My old grandma used to say, "if you don't have something nice to say about someone, then say nothing to them". Please let's refrain from putting others down when we have nothing meaningful to contribute ourselves. My 50c.
 
Jesus, it's just a camera.
ehehehehe.. good one.. your quote is doing a lot of success.. a special one.. your quote.. the quote.. :)
 
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