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What do you guys make of Chemtrails?

obin said:
just wondering what's going on Jim...
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I'm sure most "chemtrails" are simply contrails BUT weather modification is real. China has something like 50,000 people devoted to it. There's ZERO chance the U.S. military isn't not working on it. They've been doing experiments since the 50's.

For a lot of folks if something is not on FOX News it's not real. Thankfully, they lack the filmmaking gene. (if you don't count porn)
 
AlienFX said:
Personally, I find Fox to be one of the most accurate news stations on TV.....
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You want to know the truth? NO American news channel is giving it to you. They are all corporate pawns. I've got good friends that work in two of the largest newsrooms in America that have told me many stories of real news getting killed (like tens of billions of dollars missing in Iraq) in favor of the missing blonde girl de jour.

Consider doing yourself a favor and get a book called "Into the Buzzsaw: Leading Journalists Expose the Myth of a Free Press". It's a book written by award winning Journalists that believed the press was free when they were winning awards but came to find the REALLY big stories will never be reported.

Ya know why? Advertising pays for the news. A few big multinationals control all of the airwaves via either direct ownership or huge national ad buys that fund those networks. Big Pharma, Oil, Politicians, Defense... you ever wonder why Raytheon needs a TV commercial? Hint: They don't. They do need a way to pay someone off.

Do you wonder why Hillary had been the presumptive Dem front runner when every poll shows Edwards would trounce any Repub he goes against? Two reasons.
1) Campaign money raised is simply TV ads waiting to be purchased. Obama and Hillary are going to give the networks the most money so they'll get the most play.

2) Edwards wants to break apart the big media monopoly (best thing that could happen for America). No network will give him a chance.

And what about Guliani? Well... he moved heaven and Earth to get Fox on cable in New York City... and now Fox is paying him back. He's their man and is a long time friend of Roger Ailes... who runs FOX. And he's a longtime Republican operative.

That's why they Internet is so important... so you can learn stuff like this and stop believing FOX before it's too late. FOX is the most distorted of them all - but they are all bad. Even PBS. PBS viewers have been shown to be the most accurately informed in previous studies. FOX viewers were the least accurately informed in the previous study.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6737097743434902428
 
good stuff Joelnet! Nice to hear it from a good source.
 
Ok... my rule of thumb for these things is incredibly unscientific. But here it is... sort of my version of "Six Degrees Of Kevin Bacon."

If it takes less than 5 links from any "scientific" theory to get to someone talking about the Illuminatus, then ix-nay on the theory.

Start with Our Friend Google -> Chemtrails

1) http://www.masternewmedia.org/news/2007/03/10/chemtrails_what_they_are_and.htm
(one of the links on the first page of results)

2) http://educate-yourself.org/ct/#intro
(from the Read More About Chemtrails links at the bottom)

3) http://educate-yourself.org/lte/pentagramdutchchemtrails06feb07.shtml
(One of the links towards the bottom)

4) http://educate-yourself.org/lte/satanicxsymbol06feb05.shtml
(From the "Satanic X" embedded link)

And.... (drum roll...)

5) http://educate-yourself.org/mc/IlluminatiFormulaindex.shtml

"[SIZE=+2]The Illuminati Formula to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Control Slave"
[/SIZE]
I rest my case.

Lucas
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VP of Conspiracies
ASSIMILATE, Inc.
LA, CA, USA
 
luki said:
"The Illuminati Formula to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Control Slave"
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I KNEW it!

And it totally explains the "hot chicks having orgies with old Illuminati guys" conundrum too. It couldn't be just money. Kubrick was trying to tell us that when they killed him.
 
Ok you get a LOL out of me! :)

good rule of thumb..I guess...erm...right?

thing that sucks is the conspiracy nut jobs tend to ruin the entire subject..argg
 
joelnet said:
weather modification is real. China has something like 50,000 people devoted to it. There's ZERO chance the U.S. military isn't not working on it. They've been doing experiments since the 50's.
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Its also known as geo-engineering, although there may be some thematic variations between the two. There was a conference at Harvard three weeks ago on the subject, discussing everything from putting sulphate aerosols into the air to increase the earth's albedo, to seeding the oceans with iron, to putting mirrors into space to deflect the sun. This is real, and shows us the desperate times we're actually in.

And on a somewhat related topic, anyone who thinks that governments/military systems around the world arent seriously messing with almost everything around us isnt paying attention. Remember the atomic bomb experiments using people as test dummies (both americans and islanders in the south pacific) ? Look at the NASA website on shuttle missions. More than half of them are classified military secrets. The weaponization of space is almost here. Sonar systems that seem to be responsible for the endless beaching of whales. Etc. etc. etc. These people are fucking merciless. This isn't about anything but control of the planet's resources for the purposes of money money money money money. That's why the U.S. military (and formerly the colonizing armies of France, England, Belgium, Spain, Germany et al.) is all over the freakin' planet. Not for democracy. What do you think the whole Department of Homeland Security is about? It's primary purpose is consolidating different departments under one roof to have more control over y'all and whatcher up to.
Geo-engineering is going to start happening within the public eye and realm because a. its starting to look like, in combination with drastic conservation practices, one of the few possibilities to avert total disaster, and b. when the world starts really feeling the effects of global warming there will be hell to pay for those who denied it, and those who ensured it wouldn't be stopped. That notion, in conjunction with food and energy shortages, means our political climate will be potentially VERY unstable in these 'civilized' societies of ours. And they know it. Just read up on the Pentagon study on the effects of global warming from a 'security' standpoint by 2025. It's not a fun read. I suspect the homeland security project was one of many pre-emptive responses to this idea of instability.
So chemtrails? Come on people. This is par for the course. The real question is, what are you going to do about this mess, having access to cameras and editing gear and the web and all......
here's a little chemtrails site...
http://www.airapparent.ca/
 
Evolve said:
Its also known as geo-engineering, although there may be some thematic variations between the two. There was a conference at Harvard three weeks ago on the subject, discussing everything from putting sulphate aerosols into the air to increase the earth's albedo, to seeding the oceans with iron, to putting mirrors into space to deflect the sun. This is real, and shows us the desperate times we're actually in.

And on a somewhat related topic, anyone who thinks that governments/military systems around the world arent seriously messing with almost everything around us isnt paying attention. Remember the atomic bomb experiments using people as test dummies (both americans and islanders in the south pacific) ? Look at the NASA website on shuttle missions. More than half of them are classified military secrets. The weaponization of space is almost here. Sonar systems that seem to be responsible for the endless beaching of whales. Etc. etc. etc. These people are fucking merciless. This isn't about anything but control of the planet's resources for the purposes of money money money money money. That's why the U.S. military (and formerly the colonizing armies of France, England, Belgium, Spain, Germany et al.) is all over the freakin' planet. Not for democracy. What do you think the whole Department of Homeland Security is about? It's primary purpose is consolidating different departments under one roof to have more control over y'all and whatcher up to.
Geo-engineering is going to start happening within the public eye and realm because a. its starting to look like, in combination with drastic conservation practices, one of the few possibilities to avert total disaster, and b. when the world starts really feeling the effects of global warming there will be hell to pay for those who denied it, and those who ensured it wouldn't be stopped. That notion, in conjunction with food and energy shortages, means our political climate will be potentially VERY unstable in these 'civilized' societies of ours. And they know it. Just read up on the Pentagon study on the effects of global warming from a 'security' standpoint by 2025. It's not a fun read. I suspect the homeland security project was one of many pre-emptive responses to this idea of instability.
So chemtrails? Come on people. This is par for the course. The real question is, what are you going to do about this mess, having access to cameras and editing gear and the web and all......
here's a little chemtrails site...
http://www.airapparent.ca/
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Give me a break. People spend an awful lot of time complaining about vast government conspiracies and the evils of the faceless bad guys... while quietly going about their business on technology birthed and nurtured by the military industrial complex.

Ever use a microwave oven? --> Raytheon and early Radar experiments.

How about the Internet? --> DARPA

Ever flown on a jet airplane? --> RAF, USAF.

Rayon, Nylon, or other synthetic fabrics? --> all stems from military research

And the RED camera? --> CMOS sensors --> JPL (Jet Propulsion Laboratort)

So we are communicating on technology birthed by the central research group of the US Department of Defense and talking about a camera based on technology created by the premiere Jet and Rocket scientists in NASA. But that's ok - NASA and Jet/Rocket technology is purely peaceful, right? : )

The world is shades of gray. Have various governments done horrible things in the name of science? Absolutely. For the wrong reasons? Yep.

But pulling out the "big bad government" line and painting a giant conspiracy picture with all kinds of unknown horrifics being perpetrated on an unknowing public oversimplifies a very complicated world tremendously,

Lucas
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Bleeding Heart Liberal who grew up in a Military Town.
ASSIMILATE, Inc.
LA, CA, USA
 
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