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Why doesn't quicktime movies play perfectly on pc's like they do macs?

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Why doesn't quicktime movies play perfectly on pc's like they do macs?

I have used lots of high end pc's and high end macs it seems that quicktims play a lot better on macs.

It seems on the pc it is playing at a slower frame rate that it should be.

I watch lots of 1080P Trailers on both macs and pcs and this is where i notice the problem the most. (trailers from www.apple.com/trailers)
 
The Apple trailers play fine on my PC and my macs.
What speed is your PC and what drives are you playing from?
 
No they don't. Macs have better hardware, for sure, you can't even get 16 gigs of RAM on a PC. Macs are superior computers. That's why I switched from being a life-long PC user to a Mac user. PCs are the Honda Civics of the computer world -- everyone uses 'em, but if you want the best you get the Ferrari of the computer world, a Mac.

And I'm sure it's true that Mac screws with their programs not to work as well on a PC, I sure hope so anyway, because Micros**t does the same to us; Word is terrible on a Mac, but it's great on a PC. I think Word on a PC is a great program, but I don't bother with it on my Mac because it doesn't even seem to work the same way.
 
QuickTime

QuickTime

I think that main reason that H.264 plays back better under QuickTime on an Intel based Mac than on a P.C is because Apple optimizes it to use both cores - take a look at the CPU usage meter to see if that is so.
 
JonathanLB said:
No they don't. Macs have better hardware, for sure, you can't even get 16 gigs of RAM on a PC. Macs are superior computers. That's why I switched from being a life-long PC user to a Mac user. PCs are the Honda Civics of the computer world -- everyone uses 'em, but if you want the best you get the Ferrari of the computer world, a Mac.

And I'm sure it's true that Mac screws with their programs not to work as well on a PC, I sure hope so anyway, because Micros**t does the same to us; Word is terrible on a Mac, but it's great on a PC. I think Word on a PC is a great program, but I don't bother with it on my Mac because it doesn't even seem to work the same way.
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This is the funniest thing I've read all day.
 
AlienFX said:
Well, you can get upto 192GB on a PC, and quad quad-cores at 3GHz..... sure no computer manufacturer makes them with that capability.... but you can build your own; Plus a 1.5GB Graphics Card and 10.1 Audio. Dell Computers can get 16GB, you just have to buy them seperate from your comp. and install them yourself.

Anyway, the great thing about Apple hardware.... is they don't make any of it, lol. They're just lucky the people that make the motherboards for them decided to have 8 memory card slots. Otherwise they'd be stuck at 8GB.... and as far as I know, on the Mac OS anything beyond 3GB is practical useless for any single Program... maybe if you're running tons of Apps. but I don't think any single App. can use that much Mem.
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Apple's boards are made ONLY for them and made exactly as they choose them to be. The design is not controlled by anyone but them.
 
JonathanLB said:
No they don't. Macs have better hardware, for sure, you can't even get 16 gigs of RAM on a PC. Macs are superior computers. That's why I switched from being a life-long PC user to a Mac user. PCs are the Honda Civics of the computer world -- everyone uses 'em, but if you want the best you get the Ferrari of the computer world, a Mac.

And I'm sure it's true that Mac screws with their programs not to work as well on a PC, I sure hope so anyway, because Micros**t does the same to us; Word is terrible on a Mac, but it's great on a PC. I think Word on a PC is a great program, but I don't bother with it on my Mac because it doesn't even seem to work the same way.
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Sigh... Another piece of performance art???

I have no problems with QT on my PC's. I'm wondering if the processing power is the same on both machines in question?
 
animal said:
Sigh... Another piece of performance art???

I have no problems with QT on my PC's. I'm wondering if the processing power is the same on both machines in question?
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There are certain video formats QT handles (I believe h.264 is the one people bitch about the most) that pretty much turn the average home PC into a paperweight if you try to play them back on anything that isn't multi-core and packing heat. QT for the PC has always been an under utilized piece of software but that is starting to change as more and more websites are putting out multi-format videos though QT is still not the video player of choice for most people and it never will be because there are better formats out there. But since he's comparing a PC workstation to a PC desktop I guess it's a moot point. :nerd:
 
I don't know if you are comparing apples to apples (pun intended) (ie a dual core Mac Pro with the exact equivalent intel dual core processors on a PC). RAM is not a factor in playing a 100mb 1080P H.264 trailer.

To AlienFX: the Mac Pro is a PC. It is intel based and will run XP natively - as well as OS X. It's also very competitively priced if you look at similarly powerful PC from companies like Dell. This is certainly a first for Mac as they were always the most expensive. Any high-end PC users should consider a Mac Pro when they upgrade because you get two computers in one. No PC will do that :bleh:

I don't think Apple is dumbing down Quicktime on a PC. The one thing that remains different from PCs to Macs are the video cards. All mac owners know this fact because they pay much more for mac video cards and are often stuck with older cards and less choices. I have been told that this is because Macs utilize the video card in a much different way than a PC. This could explain why the same PC system doesn't playback Quicktime as well as the same speed Mac.
 
JonathanLB said:
No they don't. Macs have better hardware, for sure, you can't even get 16 gigs of RAM on a PC.
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Apple dropped their own architecture and switched to PC some times ago.

16GB on the PC Platform is not much.
128GB is the actual desktop/blade PC limit, if you use standard systems. One example:
http://tyan.com/product_barebones_spec.aspx?pid=308

Usual Workstations typically offer 32GB:
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/en/WF06a/12454-12454-296719-307907-296721-3211286.html
http://www.fujitsu-siemens.com/products/deskbound/workstations/celsius_v.htmlV



Top-range PC basing Workstations with dedicated hardware or even clusters (as baselight, clipster, quantel series, or elder sony xpri) are mostly in the $$$.$$$ range. some of them have uncompressed multitrack realtime 4K playback, record, display and input/output. OS is typically windows and/or linux.

Mid-Range PC basing basing workstation usually rely on Xena and/or Nvidia Quadro SDI, are mostly in the $$.$$$ range. (as smoke, speedgrade, ds nitris, scratch, quantel eQ, mystika, matrix chrome). Typical is 2K display and i/o. OS is typically windows and/or linux.

Desktop-range PC basing workstations are in the $.$$$ range, mainly used with Adobe CS, Apple FCS, Avid, discreet, eyeon, nuke, looks etc. Storage and hd-sdi i/o is mainly custom configurated, ranging from 4 to 16 core systems. OS is typically linux, osx, win.
 
Nathan Troutman said:
Any high-end PC users should consider a Mac Pro when they upgrade because you get two computers in one. No PC will do that :bleh:
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Not true, any PC can run the MAC OS and Windows.... I can triple boot my computer.... Vista, XP, and Leopard. Sure, you have to shut down to switch over to another OS, but Mac on PC is very possible. You just need Linux to do it... and then use Linux (can run a CD Live version) to create an AF partition. Then install Mac on that AF (HFS+) partition.
Have two harddrives and you can then have the 2nd drive as a NTFS and then all three OSes can read from it. One drive only for the OSes and the other for data...

http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/partitions/partition_types-1.html

And actually the max memory on a motherboard is 192GB
http://supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon7000/7300/X7QC3.cfm
 
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