Would you prefer Metric or Imperial markings ?

[chuck colburn]

Myanmar and Burma are the same country. No matter what the name it has been run by mudering thieving bastards for the last two hundred years.

cheers,

 

[Jeremy Hughes]

Who shoots with a 386/1024" (rough estimate) focal length lens? We use 35mm. But both would be the best of course.

 

[Brent J. Craig]

I'm hoping the original poster will add 'shinnies' to the poll options!

As a professional focus-puller with 15 years experience here is the number one reason why lenses should be marked off in FEET:

You are shooting a nice closeup of a big-shot actor. They walk to the camera and stop with their foot half over the large orange T-mark you have lovingly placed for them to hit. Do you yank out your tape measure? Do you you tell the director you missed the shot because the actor messed up? Or do you guess how far off they are and compensate for them?

On a lens marked in FEET with the actor's foot halfway over the mark, he is half a foot too close. Both literally and figuratively. Set the lens six inches closer and you are good to go.

When actors start wearing metre sticks on their feet, maybe I will consider metric lens markings.

 

[Fredrik Callinggard]

CrewPix

If you've been brought up with metrics you feel the same as you do for feet. I know that Canada has the metric system but your on feet in the business (I think). Coming originally from Sweden which has metrics I see it differently. I understand feet but do prefer metric and my RED will be used in Scandinavia and therefor would be better off with metric. It's all well that you feel that feet is justified but don't forget that 90% of the world is only familiar with the metric system and that is in the business as well.

 

[Fredrik Callinggard]

Maybe 90% was a little exaggerated.

 

[Irri]

Maybe 90% was a little exaggerated.

Probably when you are talking about Focus Pullers if you think how much stuff is shot in the US.

It may be that only a few place still use feet, but those places make RED cameras and Cooke lenses

 

[Dominic Cochran]

I'm hoping the original poster will add 'shinnies' to the poll options!

As a professional focus-puller with 15 years experience here is the number one reason why lenses should be marked off in FEET:

You are shooting a nice closeup of a big-shot actor. They walk to the camera and stop with their foot half over the large orange T-mark you have lovingly placed for them to hit. Do you yank out your tape measure? Do you you tell the director you missed the shot because the actor messed up? Or do you guess how far off they are and compensate for them?

On a lens marked in FEET with the actor's foot halfway over the mark, he is half a foot too close. Both literally and figuratively. Set the lens six inches closer and you are good to go.

When actors start wearing metre sticks on their feet, maybe I will consider metric lens markings.

Plus it was really cool for us when they adjusted the SAG contracts to require all actors to wear 12 inch shoes, no matter how long their feet are. Makes things much easier!

 

[Adrian T.]

It may be that only a few place still use feet, but those places make RED cameras and Cooke lenses

Cooke lenses are British! Please consult the following map before forcing the imperial system upon the rest of the world. :angry03:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Metric_system.png

When you grow up in a country which uses the metric system it's really difficult to work with feet and inches. Mainly because we cannot think in a duodecimal number system. We never learned that.

 

[Fredrik Callinggard]

I'm not going to bother about commenting that bs

Probably when you are talking about Focus Pullers if you think how much stuff is shot in the US.

It may be that only a few place still use feet, but those places make RED cameras and Cooke lenses

 

[Fredrik Callinggard]

and the preferred lens by RED users seem to be the Zeiss super speeds - which definitely aren't US made.

 

[Clint Johnson]

Plus it was really cool for us when they adjusted the SAG contracts to require all actors to wear 12 inch shoes, no matter how long their feet are. Makes things much easier!

Yes, you put a petite actress such as Kristen Kreuk into the high heels she usually wears to close up that 25cm height difference with Tom Welling and I bet there isn't much more than 5 inches from heel to toe (or about 12cm... or about a 1/4 shinnie).

 

[Irri]

Cooke lenses are British! Please consult the following map before forcing the imperial system upon the rest of the world. :angry03:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Metric_system.png

When you grow up in a country which uses the metric system it's really difficult to work with feet and inches. Mainly because we cannot think in a duodecimal number system. We never learned that.

I know Cookes are British. I was referring to the comment: “The only countries using the imperial system are : England, USA, Myanmar, Burma and Liberia.”

By the way, your map is wrong. The UK uses miles per hour and focusing is done in feet and inches.

I'm not going to bother about commenting that bs

Come on, it was a light hearted retort to all the people making jokes about the imperial system.

and the preferred lens by RED users seem to be the Zeiss super speeds - which definitely aren't US made.

I was referring to Cooke because they make/design the RED lenses which is what I thought this thread was about.

 

[Stephen Williams]

I was referring to Cooke because they make/design the RED lenses which is what I thought this thread was about.

Hi,

I think you will find that Sigma makes & designs the lens that ends up being rehoused in the UK as a Red 18-50.

Stephen

 

[Irri]

I stand corrected. I was under the impression that there was some connection between Red lenses and Cooke.

 

[Dominic Cochran]

Hi,

I think you will find that Sigma makes & designs the lens that ends up being rehoused in the UK as a Red 18-50.

Stephen

Where can I find this information?

Already tried a forum search. Thanks!

 

[Fredrik Callinggard]

Well if it's rehoused in the UK chances are it's in Cooke's Leicester factory.

 

[Brent J. Craig]

The markings and form-factor are very Cooke-like to me, but they sure as heck aren't using Cooke glass.

At 6.5K for a cine zoom they are definitely re-housed stills lenses.

 

[Dominic Cochran]

The markings and form-factor are very Cooke-like to me, but they sure as heck aren't using Cooke glass.

At 6.5K for a cine zoom they are definitely re-housed stills lenses.

I'm not surprised by this, I'm just trying to find out exactly WHICH still lenses they're re-housing. And I still haven't been able to verify that said re-housing is indeed happening in the UK by Cooke. Does anyone have detailed info on the Red glass? Anyone from Red care to chime in?

Stephen, you seem fairly sure about the Sigma glass being rehoused in the UK thing. Where did you read this?

Thanks all!

 

[Blue]

Well the poll is unanimous. So is it settled?

 

[Adrian T.]

Well the poll is unanimous. So is it settled?

I really hope so. Any word from RED?