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How's this for Nikon WIDE: Tokina AT-X 116 Pro DX

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"A wide zoom for Nikon and Canon crop sensor cameras boasting a focal length of 11-16 mm and constant f/2.8 maximum aperture. The zoom range is not exactly what you might call extensive, this lens is likely to generate considerable interest with its 17-25 mm approx. equivalent focal length (on Nikon DX, Canon APS-C users will get around 18-26 mm). Priced at around US $800, the lens will be available in December.
 
Sounds good. Looks like it might be available for Canon mount as well maybe? Or is it just Nikon? Reviews are non existent.

Paul
 
PaulClements said:
Sounds good. Looks like it might be available for Canon mount as well maybe? Or is it just Nikon? Reviews are non existent.

Paul
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Yeah, it's available for Canon too. I forgot to mention it 'cause I'm so partial to Nikon. So I guess on the RED One, the focal length would be 18.7x27.2. Am I right?
 
jaadgy akanni said:
Yeah, it's available for Canon too. I forgot to mention it 'cause I'm so partial to Nikon. So I guess on the RED One, the focal length would be 18.7x27.2. Am I right?
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I think it will be about a 12.5-18mm at 4k since that frame is almost the same....yes? I will be shocked however if the CA and fall off in the corners is acceptable to most people.
 
No it would be 11-16mm. If you are comparing the field of view of S35 or APS-C sized DSLR sensors(which are roughly the same size) to Full-frame 35mm stills format, then the equivalent FOV on Full-frame stills would be somewhere around 16-24 through 18-26mm( I haven't done the actual math) depending on the dimensions of the specific sensor you are making the comparison to. But the focal length doesn't change whether it's on super8 or 4x5 film. It's always an 11-16mm lens. The format just dictates how much of that image we are able to see or how much is cropped(well, that and the size of the image circle on a given lens).
But if you are comparing it to a S35mm motion picture camera, the FOV will be roughly the same. So, compared to say the 18-50mm RED zoom, it will be quite a bit wider.
 
parisrem said:
No it would be 11-16mm. If you are comparing the field of view of S35 or APS-C sized DSLR sensors(which are roughly the same size) to Full-frame 35mm stills format, then the equivalent FOV on Full-frame stills would be somewhere around 16-24 through 18-26mm( I haven't done the actual math) depending on the dimensions of the specific sensor you are making the comparison to. But the focal length doesn't change whether it's on super8 or 4x5 film. It's always an 11-16mm lens. The format just dictates how much of that image we are able to see or how much is cropped(well, that and the size of the image circle on a given lens).
But if you are comparing it to a S35mm motion picture camera, the FOV will be roughly the same. So, compared to say the 18-50mm RED zoom, it will be quite a bit wider.
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Oh yeah, I just realized I was totally off 'cause I did the math without taking into account that it's not a full frame 35mm lens-it's a DX, rather..oops, sorry.
 
It would only work in the canon mount. I believe Tokina only delivers their atx pro lenses in nikon D type, which corresonds to the AF-D lenses from nikon. The birger mount will only support focussing with AF-S lenses.
 
Am I off base -- but, this lens does not seem to have a manual iris, and therefore, isn't a practical option for the Red -- when and if someone (Birger or???, they seem kind of mum) comes up with a lens adaptor that will provide at least diaphram control? In which case an array of quality digital still lenses would become useable -- perhaps -- best case scenario.

But please, if someone really knows something about this, tell me I'm off the mark-- that all this is, will come to pass, that it's not a pipe dream. And in what approximate time frame?
 
Canon EOS 400D Digital Rebel XTi is actually the same width as the Red's sensor at 4K. Nikon D40x is 1.4mm larger. The D40x has less pixels though so you only need crop by 230 pixels to get the same FOV as the Red Sensor.

Paul
 
rodbradley said:
Am I off base -- but, this lens does not seem to have a manual iris, and therefore, isn't a practical option for the Red -- when and if someone (Birger or???, they seem kind of mum) comes up with a lens adaptor that will provide at least diaphram control? In which case an array of quality digital still lenses would become useable -- perhaps -- best case scenario.

But please, if someone really knows something about this, tell me I'm off the mark-- that all this is, will come to pass, that it's not a pipe dream. And in what approximate time frame?
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Check out these posts for lots of still lens info.

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4401

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5218

Birger delivery date of the EOS mount is unknown at the moment and he has stated in the past that the Nikon mount would come after the Canon. He has not made any posts for a while - so everyone is waiting for an update on his mounts.

Jim says the RED Nikon mount will not be available until 2008.

A Canon FD mount custom made by Kmuse is in development.
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5224
 
If you like wide, how about this: a 10mm fisheye, 180 degrees FOV for Nikon mount.
http://sigmaphoto.com/lenses/lenses_all_details.asp?id=3337&navigator=6

I have yet to find much use for a 180 degree fisheye, myself, but I'm sure they're out there. Since the 16:9 aspect ratio is wider than the 3:2 sensor this lens was designed for, I assume you would have the image more cropped at the top & bottom edges if it was used on a Red.
 
Enzo said:
Check out these posts for lots of still lens info.

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4401

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5218

Birger delivery date of the EOS mount is unknown at the moment and he has stated in the past that the Nikon mount would come after the Canon. He has not made any posts for a while - so everyone is waiting for an update on his mounts.

Jim says the RED Nikon mount will not be available until 2008.
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yeah.. shame on all these vapor guys..
 
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