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Vocas mattbox for the red one

I own a Vocas Follow Focus, and I'm very pleased with the quality. Much more smart and solid build than the Chrosziel matte box I've rented. The Vocas MB-450 looks like it might be a great matte box, wish I could try it out somewhere.
 
I would appreciate some feedback Noah. That Matte box seems pretty good as far as features, but is it rugged/sturdy enough? How much did it cost, if you don't mind my asking?
 
i will go with the redrockmicro mattebax and they are also coming out with a wireless follow focus called MICROREMOTE.
 
Vocas matte boxes are getting better.

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I have a Vocas MB250 with 15mm rod support, which is a 4x4 filter size and I have been very happy with it. It is well engineered but have decided to sell it because I wasn't sure it would be large enough format for the Red. Shame really because the larger glass is more expensive.

I also have the Vocas FF; that is a very nice unit; no backlash at all on the gearbox. I have decided to keep it for now and try it out when I get delivery of my Red. It's such a nice unit; very well engineered.

Vocas make a larger format matte box, MB450 which has a swing-away; I was seriously considering buying it for my Red until I found out Jay was trying to get a Arri discount deal on a group purchase of their matte box.

All in all I like the build quality of the Vocas kit and I have been extremely happy with the matte box and FF.

David
 
Played with the MB-450 at Cinegear. Seemed excellent:
1. lightweight and strong (is it molded carbon fibre?)
2. has nice tiltable front frame to reduce filter reflections
3. cute eyebrows too!

The only problem with it is that it's similar in price to the Arri MB-20 Mk.II and doesn't support 5x6 filters (it does 5.65x5.65 though).

Here are my pics...

Overall unit:
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Eyebrows!
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Tiltable reflector-reducing front filter thing:
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Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
The Vocas MB450 swing away box was shown at NAB. It is very nice but also very expensive, as were the Petroff boxes...also very nice. They are at least in the same price range as the Arri boxes. I really liked the tilt tray in front on the Vocas. It's a nice feature. I have one of their older 4X4 model clip ons I use for EFP.
 
We just added two Vocas Matte Boxes to our inventory and sent them out on a feature today with Red One cameras. I'll get more feedback over the course of the shoot I'm sure, but they were the MB-450s with two rotating 4x5.650 / 5.5x5.5 stages, one stationary 4x5.650 and a 138mm stage.... Also w/ 19mm swing away adjustable support and a variety of step-down donuts.

Good deal. Slightly less than Chrosziel. At least 35-40% less than Arri. Seems like a deal. Some features Arri's MB-20 doesn't have, though - I haven't fully tested it. As a rental company, the main downside is it doesn't have the name brand people want to see.
 
Yeah..

It's a big part of the system and I hate to say it, but for those of us working in front of a lot of people, the ARRI on that Mattebox goes a ways to calming people down.

Stupid? Perhaps, but this is one area where I cannot take chances
Jay
 
We had a great shoot with the Vocas MB450. Definitely highly recommended. And yes it looks absolutely bad ass on the camera.

Noah
 
Personally I never had a client asking me what brand of the mattebox I am using.
It's seams the MB450 may be a good pair to the Red Camera.

Noah, do you have any other comments about it?

Thanks
 
Jay A. Kelley said:
the ARRI on that Mattebox goes a ways to calming people down.
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I think I'll stencil ARRI onto a RedRock and see how many people figure it out. Luckily, not too many people out here can tell Arri from Nikon. Hmm... maybe I should stencil Nikon or Canon on instead. :blink:

Reminds of threads where people were worrying if RED would look professional enough for actors to take seriously.
 
Just to clarify, I wouldn't worry about actors thinking anything about the Matte Box. It looks great. I just have customers request Arri, specifically. And, to respond saying "How bout Vocas?" - Some DP's/AC's won't accept that :)

If its for your own package - I do recommend it highly.
 
Hey guys,

I have to say that I do love the ARRI MB-20 II, but as for sure I will go creasy on the ARRIHEAD II purchase for one of my RED's, I stand to believe the mattebox system is over kill for at the price point, granted it is of great build and fully accessoriesable (is this a word, hope you get what I mean), but the VOCAS that Bruce is showing above (we look at this together when we meet at Cinegear) it is just as good built, the prices were in the proximitie of that of ARRI's, just that ARRI's gets much expensive as you can add on so much, but at the end I suggest strongly ( after seeen Brian from REDROCK M2 ) what the REDROCK is about to put in to the market for just a fantastic price ( about $500 to start the unit ) so first take a good look at this MATTEBOX with swing away, then you can make a much better inform decision.

Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI
 
Ketch - thanks for the note. We certainly anticipate the microMatteBox will make waves in the matte box market.

Brian
 
We use Chrosziel for years now and are pretty satisfied. I think Arri is better, but way too expensive, so Chrosziel would always be my recommendation. Ads usual, they would come up with a special mattebox for the Red soon.
 
Well the Vocas has the beautiful red knobs and stuff, while Redrock seems to be going for blue ... which makes the $2500 price difference easier to justify. :)
 
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