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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

redrock mattebox

zakaree said:
what do most people plan on using filter wise?
I assume since there is so much to do in post now days that it might be best to just shoot clean and add later.. I can only see myself using a ND and or polarizing filter.. maybe graduals if i realllly wanna stick with a certain look
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NDs, Grads and polarizers are a must.

Maybe split diopters for those trick dual plane focus shots.

As far as a softening filter goes, I doubt you'd need one with Nikkors. I'm guessing that the sharpness of a Nikkor would be equal to if not softer than a Cooke, which is generally considered a softer lens.

Now if you're shooting with some Zeiss Master primes, then a Formatt HD Soft filter would be a good idea. Dean Semler used one in Apocalypto apparently.
 
Bruce Allen said:
Anyone think I should go up to 5x6 / 6x6 size now that RedRock supports it?

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
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If you're going to be shooting on older zooms such as the Cooke 20-100 or larger diameter lens (Panavision Primos and the like) then a safe bet would be buying 5x6 / 6x6 filters.

Personally, I won't be buying anything smaller than 5x6.
 
Alexander Nikishin said:
If you're going to be shooting on older zooms such as the Cooke 20-100 or larger diameter lens (Panavision Primos and the like) then a safe bet would be buying 5x6 / 6x6 filters.

Personally, I won't be buying anything smaller than 5x6.
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Haha, how did you know I was eyeing that old Cooke SuperTechno for use with my HV20 / 35mm adapter / RedRock mattebox combination ;)

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
Bruce Allen said:
Haha, how did you know I was eyeing that old Cooke SuperTechno for use with my HV20 / 35mm adapter / RedRock mattebox combination ;)

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
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That'd be a sight to see!

Brian, can you post a pic of the HV20 rig with a large PL lens? :whistling:
 
Hey guys, I am sort of a noobie, but I just want to say, the redrock is exactly in line with the whole idea of red in general. Matt boxes are pieces of metal. You guys who work on "real" films are too rich to realize how stupid it is too pay 3 grand for a floppy piece of metal. My cell phone was like 200 bucks and about 100 million dollars of R and D went into it's design...if you think the guys at chrozial spent more then 10,000 dollars I would be surprised. The beauty of red is that it is providing us little guys with superior quality images, something which has only been kept from us by the bigger corporations, rather than technology!!! good for redrock, good for red, good for me...wow I just noticed that anything film related with red in the title is wicked cool!!!!
 
fromwimptopimp said:
Hey guys, I am sort of a noobie, but I just want to say, the redrock is exactly in line with the whole idea of red in general. Matt boxes are pieces of metal. You guys who work on "real" films are too rich to realize how stupid it is too pay 3 grand for a floppy piece of metal. My cell phone was like 200 bucks and about 100 million dollars of R and D went into it's design...if you think the guys at chrozial spent more then 10,000 dollars I would be surprised. The beauty of red is that it is providing us little guys with superior quality images, something which has only been kept from us by the bigger corporations, rather than technology!!! good for redrock, good for red, good for me...wow I just noticed that anything film related with red in the title is wicked cool!!!!
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A couple of things...you think matteboxes are pretty simple designs hun? Sure, the clip on mattebox is fairly simple. However, a 3 stage mattebox is a complex tool. There's also the quality vs technology vs money factor. Let's face it, Arri makes solid matteboxes that last forever with very little technology change. For probably the next ten years, there are going to be very little change in how they build them (probably the only thing they WOULD change wold be what they are built out of). The market for matteboxes is not that big. It's the same reason I can get $110 an hour for editing, but other people can only get $6.50 an hour flipping burgers...there's not as much of a demand and it's very specialized.

Yeah, film gear seems overpriced...but, I look at things like the RED and realize that I could make $500,000-$1mil over the next 5 years, so does $3k seem so unreasonable?

Matthew
 
I can say that I once spent $10K on a prototype of a simple ipod accessory... CNC'ing parts adds up. It definitly helps if you don't have to pay the engineer (myself).
 
"...here's a short film shot by Amilcar Machado with the Sony Z1 and Redrock M2,who writes:

'I live in Buenos Aires, Argentina. I´ve studied 3 years of International Relations and I got my middle degree. I wanted to have a studies year off, so I went to the USA for 1 year. I worked as a snowboard instructor, then I stayed in San Diego (I love surfing and California). When I got back, I decided that filmmaking was what I really wanted, so I started studying in Eliseo Subiela´s Institute. I´m also formed in theatre acting, I´ve studied since I was 15. Also, I worked on TV here. But what I really like, is cinematography. [Regarding Quiroga] we used 2 Sony Z1 cameras. I was going to choose one JVC GY-HD111E, but I prefered to use 2 cameras instead. We shot in a small town in Buenos Aires called Villa Ruiz. It took 3 days to shoot everything, and it was pretty hard because we were at the sun´s will most of the time. We had Nikon lenses (35mm f/1.8, 50mm f/1.8, 100mm f/2.8, and a 135mm f/2.8).'

Enjoy!

Watch the movie >> LINK >>


Bravo Brian.

RedRock Micro rocks again.
 
The Third Man said:
"...here's a short film shot by Amilcar Machado with the Sony Z1 and Redrock M2,who writes:

'I live in Buenos Aires, Argentina. I´ve studied 3 years of International Relations and I got my middle degree. I wanted to have a studies year off, so I went to the USA for 1 year. I worked as a snowboard instructor, then I stayed in San Diego (I love surfing and California). When I got back, I decided that filmmaking was what I really wanted, so I started studying in Eliseo Subiela´s Institute. I´m also formed in theatre acting, I´ve studied since I was 15. Also, I worked on TV here. But what I really like, is cinematography. [Regarding Quiroga] we used 2 Sony Z1 cameras. I was going to choose one JVC GY-HD111E, but I prefered to use 2 cameras instead. We shot in a small town in Buenos Aires called Villa Ruiz. It took 3 days to shoot everything, and it was pretty hard because we were at the sun´s will most of the time. We had Nikon lenses (35mm f/1.8, 50mm f/1.8, 100mm f/2.8, and a 135mm f/2.8).'

Enjoy!

Watch the movie >> LINK >>


Bravo Brian.

RedRock Micro rocks again.
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Yeah, that's a pretty great story, huh? Amilcar deserves all the credit. :)


Brian
 
Zakaree said:
Yes I have worked with both. I like arri better.. but seeing as how i do not plan to shoot any semi or fully automatic weapons at my mattebox, I think ill be fine with the redrock!

The version at NAB sucked! so please dont think im talkn about the same version. This has an arri mb style. My only iffyness goes to the french flag which was a cheap plastic... but they told me the final version would be aluminum.

this is what a mattebox does for me...
I can use my filters.. and I can block out any stray sun rays!

I dont need an ARRI or Chorsziel name to prove anything. as long as its not a thin plastic toy ill be happy.. and for 500 bucks you can bet I will get my redrock MB. no need to spend more than I should have too imho
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Well said Zakaree
 
This has an arri mb style. My only iffyness goes to the french flag which was a cheap plastic... but they told me the final version would be aluminum.
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Indeed it will not be plastic - and also we've improved the filter stages to be all metal as well.
 
Yeah Brian, cameras are shipping!

You too Curt, any updates?
 
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