Joel Smith
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I love you guys and I wish I never removed my reserve, Do you have any back door deals
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Well, to quote Tip O'Neil, "All politics are evil."
Just curious Number 1, why did you remove your reserve, and Number 2, why would you admit it?
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Political genius that gave us the worst President in my lifetime and did damage to this country that will take at least 20 years to recover from. Other than that great guy.
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Who among us have only two things against us?
I gotta love your spirit. Just use your RED to expose the truth and make the world a better place Number6.
Of course that'll turn you into a liberal... or at least no-longer-neoconned. ;-P
Heh heh... I would never rule anything out... I could get hit on the head again and switch back. Could happen. (ORRRRR... a woman who had something I really, really wanted could withhold her favors until I changed! But afterwards I would probably just change back.)
I'm not an idealogue - I just don't like crooks and incompetents from any party.
Regardless of your party we all should try to find the real truth and look past what party leaders and the major media tells you. You gotta know the major media is a rigged system. The Internet is becoming the great equalizer slowly though.
There's a really good movie about the the managing of the Iraq war called "No End in Sight". It's done by a very bright guy and he interviews high level Bush insiders. It's not a liberal bash job at all.
http://noendinsightmovie.com/
The media won't give you the truth. It takes wealthy individuals like this guy to do the real investigative journalism these days.
You may find it surprising to hear that I agree with you, for the most part. Doesn't matter if it's left wing or right wing, all too often it's the wingTIPS that are a partys' definers. Clip the tips and you've got a pretty good bird (American Eagle).
I, on the other hand, take a long term view of things. Whether or not this war is being prosecuted ultra efficiently (no war ever has been) is not the most important thing to me. I'm not dismissing the needs nor the value of the men and women fighting this one, I'm just saying the one single most important thing about this war is that, it is. The Middle East has been the rumbling volcano of the political world, probably since the end of WWII. The western world has tried to negotiate progress for them through both the American Party's presidencies. Nothing has worked. Bill Clinton offered Arafat a deal that any sane person outside the Middle East would have said was more than fair. He rejected it because he was afraid the few radicals would kill him like they did Sadat for signing a peace treaty with Israel.
And while most everyone says we should not have gone into Viet Nam (my war) just our being there caused that portion of the world to change. It changes simply because the American soldier is very often the most idealistic and compassionate among us. The civilians usually get to know Americans in a good way. Quite often, they take that memory with them when we've gone and apply some of what they choose to admire, and discard that which they do not.
Our decision to engage the middle east in a pro-active way will reap benefits worldwide, in my opinion, in the intermediate and long distance future. You could even argue that it is bringing benefits to the entire world at this very moment. Consider if you will, that Purdue University Scientists have hit upon the proper balance of Aluminum/gallinium (gallide?... whatever, anyway, 80%-20% or thereabouts) alloy that will take simple water and divide it into its oxygen-hydrogen properties, allowing one to fill a fuel tank or fuel cell with water and drive off with no hazard of pressurizing the hydrogen or needing outside energy source to do the conversion. They are saying that lawn mowers or home generators could be ready by next year with cars, submarines etc. soon following. (Imagine, running your RED setup off a noiseless generator. And, the aluminum, gallium, and water can all be recycled!) Would this all be happening now if everything was as it was before in the Middle East? Probably not, because it takes incentive to push us to do better.
So, Joelnet, you must have a late reservation number like me, otherwise we would be over at the pictures thread ooohing and aaaahhhhing like everyone else.
Yeah - I'm a later rez holder. You're right - I'd be shooting!
I'll totally agree with you the middle east is a mess. I just don't think violence will be a part of the solution. To me spending 500 bilion towards reducing our dependency on OIL is something that I think would have been a better strategic decision.
I respect your opinion. And toast you with a Big Red soda pop! Cheers!