Make that 7 stops...

[Jannard]

We are sure having fun around here. We skipped ISO 16000 and went right to ISO 32000... just for fun. You can debate all you want if you would accept this image or not. I wouldn't. But it demonstrates that there is no real adult supervision around here and that you can distress this camera quite a long way and it "keeps on ticking". Have fun with this one... we did.

Jim

 

[Oskari Sipola]

Holy shit

I could still see using this after converting to black and white, for shooting wildlife in the middle of the night (at summer there's always _some_ light here in Finland). Awesome.

No question there's latitude in that thing.

 

[Alex Boothby]

Ha ha... nutso.

 

[Pol Turrents]

how many light did you used in that shot?

 

[I Bloom]

Did you mean 32000 or 3200?

And will that be an option in the menus h34r::detective2::w00t:???

 

[Steven M. Bailey]

Paris Hilton could use this for her next home movie. Not the best use for a night vision camera, but holy crap, its the first that came to mind. She'd be better off to hire a gaffer but who really cares. 64000 tomorrow?

 

[Steve Freebairn]

Even if we wouldn't use it all the time, it will definitely be useful several times. Especially for Doc and Eng stuff! This camera keeps getting better and better.

 

[Jannard]

It was lit for T2 at ISO 250. This is shot is f22, or 7 stops under exposed- ISO 32000.

Jim

 

[Gavin Greenwalt]

Any chance we could see a 1 second H264 of that? Pleaseeeeeee. I'm curious to see what the noise characteristic is at that level of gain.

 

[Alex Boothby]

Even if we wouldn't use it all the time, it will definitely be useful several times. Especially for Doc and Eng stuff! This camera keeps getting better and better.

Don't forget your other options:
- 360 degree/open shutter (adds another stop)
- shoot faster fps and slow mo in post (12fps adds another stop)
- Keep a jar of fireflies on hand.

 

[Steven M. Bailey]

- Keep a jar of fireflies on hand.

There's a question for David Mullen;

How is the most effective way to light a scene with fireflies? How do I get them to disperse evenly for the right ambiance?:nerd:

 

[Alex Boothby]

And will that be an option in the menus h34r::detective2::w00t:???

You would probably keep a library of monitor LUT options on hand (which travel with medadata) such as:

- tungsten 250 ASA
- daylight 250 ASA
- florescent 250 ASA....
- tunsten 500 ASA (push 1 stop)
- tungsten 1000 ASA (push 2 stops)
- tungsten 2000 ASA (push 3 stops)
- tungsten 4000 ASA (push 4 stops)
- tungsten 8000 ASA (push 5 stops)

For RGB recording, one would hope that these same LUT settings would be baked in.... or something.

 

[Evan Owen]

Absolutely incredible... this really does blow away anything we've seen even from the RED in the past.

One thing I notice right off the bat is the strong horizontal line pattern near the top. Normally I wouldn't take it for much except that it's also slightly noticeable in the shot done at ISO 8000, which is a range some people might actually be tempted to use (I hope not too often!).

So is it FPN? Or something less fixable? I can tell from looking at the noise in this shot that alot has improved from the "Crossing the Line" prototypes, but there's still a bit of verticle banding to the noise pattern. Not completely random, but close...

Not that I'm complaining in the LEAST! My Canon 20D has many times this much FPN! This is just insane...

 

[david farland]

Jim,

You sound excited....so it must be good news!!

Well Done.....

What other existing camera ( or still camera) is that shot is comparative with?


There seems to be patterned noise...have you ideas on cleaning that up. Is it an easy or hard exercise to factory tweak the camera at the low end without losing data at the bright/mid range areas of the camera?

Do you think the sensor is the overriding bottle neck here...or can tweaks be still made elsewhere?

David

 

[Shawn Nelson]

Wow!!! So, how close is this to night vision?>

 

[Poi Boy]

If I was shooting at 32K asa !!! I would just add film grain an do a strange color grade or B/W. How cool is this ? can't wait to play with Red One.
Aloha
-A

 

[Ace]

Yay!

Can we do ISO 128,000 next!!

 

[Emanuel A.]

Can we do ISO 128,000 next!!

L O L

 

[Gregory Karydis]

Many many years ago I recall my mother telling me I should eat carrots if I wanted my night-vision to improve.
So tell us Jim, how many carrots a day does it take for RED to go up to 32K?

 

[Gavin Greenwalt]

SD w/ advanced de-noise:

Significantly better results could be achieved with a moving image but hell... that aint as bad as it could be.