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kalone said:
One of the nazi-guys you're talkin about was Wernher von Braun. It's still a miracle to me how guys like that could be integrated into the NASA system.
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Von Braun and his team were sent to Huntsville, Alabama and headed the teams at Marshall Space Flight Center that pioneered a lot of the propulsion technology that eventually sent Apollo to the moon, and the Space Shuttle into orbit. That led, in turn, to a huge influx of scientific and technical money to Huntsville to feed the industry that grew up around those early days when Von Braun and his team were doing research.

One of those companies that launched in Huntsville in the late 60s and early 70s was a technology startup called M & S Computing, who were early innovators in the (at that time) nascent field of CAD/CAM. After some early success, M & S changed their name to what they are better known as today - Intergraph.

Intergraph was started by Jim Meadlock (the "M" in M & S) and led to an incredible run in the 80s of triple digit annual growth as a pioneer of CAD/CAM technology and visualization graphics. One of the fields they went into later was hardware based solutions for motion imaging in the entertainment community - and were one of the first companies to jump onto WindowsNT when the entire graphics universe in Hollywood was based on SGI. Their purple boxes - the "TDZ" and "GT' series were a mainstay of 3D and rendering hardware in the mid-90s.

In an interesting turn of events - the head of the Digital Media Division at Intergraph in those days and the guy who really spearheaded a lot of the thrust into the entertainment community was a guy named Jeff Edson.

And if you look at the ASSIMILATE website in the Company->Executive Team section, you'll find the names Jim Meadlock and Jeff Edson. And as you all know, SCRATCH and RED have a pretty tight link.

It's always interesting to me how links are formed, and how history weaves itself.

Lucas Wilson
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ASSIMILATE, Inc.
LA, CA, USA
(but grew up in Huntsville...)
 
My god what happened in this thread. All of you guys are... my kinda of people! I guess what has happened here is a healthy dose of independant thinking, the internal machinations that drive our fight/flight response that "it does not all add up"! I will say this, I too am a veteran. I served in the USAF in the early to mid 90's and I have seen many things that do not add up on many levels. This would include multiple Presidential support missions (Yeltsin/Clinton to name one), UNPROFOR6, and Operation Bright Star. There were many other missions, but these stood out for specific reasons...

I too have a treatment (for a script/series) that runs in a similar vein but from a little scarier place... real world experience... although on the periphery. There was that one time though in Croatia '95, in a parched olive grove deep in conversation with a guy named Swede. No uniform or rank, he begins to spill forth my life history leading to the question...

BTW Curren, we have much in common and here is the link to the company that I hope to do business w/ if all the pieces fall into place. http://http://www.energyinnovations.com/

Thanks for a great thread guys-- all of you.
 
We have more power than you realize.

We have more power than you realize.

Welcome to the "Underground" Andrew.

Good to have you aboard. It's one thing to have a RED revolution - but it's another thing when many owners will be making films to reveal truths.

Many of us who have served have many stories to tell that reveal the inner workings of the alternate realities of the military and government.

Based on my experience with Kids - My oldest boy just graduated high school and is heading off to NYU in NYC - they are hungry for the truth and are fed up with the status quo. They see that the emperor has no clothes.

Last week my son had a party in my studio with 10 seniors at midnight - they all watched "Sicko" and loved it.

If we all start producing stuff they will watch it. They are hungry for the real truth and they want something besides "Scream 4" and "Dumb and Dumber."

I think the key will be to create new forms of "docutainment" that will appeal to a younger mass audience.

BTW, I want to thank the moderators for keeping this thread open even though it has strayed off course slightly but it has revealed an undercurrent of like minded filmmakers who are reaching out across the internet - across borders -to say - "you are not alone" - "there are others that think as you do."

I envision a world-wide network of RED owners dedicated to helping each out in co-production supplying everything from footage to rentals to tell some of these stories.

I was a child of the "Sixties" when it was a generation of young people who stood for something and fought for what they believed in. Those of us who have been around the block a few times and been in the business since then like my good friend "Gibby" who I know is lurking out there has seen a great deal of transformation take place and the ebbing away and corruption of a once great nation.

I see that we have a responsibility to our children to try and fix as much as we can before we "shuffle off this mortal coil."

Unfortunately they will have to deal with the environment in their own way but we can help as much as we can by opening up people's eyes.

And I am not advocating that everyone create meaningful docunmentaries. But thiose of you who create - who write scripts - who have any power over the choice of projects - have a choice to incorporate some topic that will reveal a truth.

We have more power than you realize. We control an unbelieve WMI -Weapon of Mass Instruction. And by using RED - the world will sit up and take notice.

aloha,

keith
 
Wise words - I'll second that.

BTW Keith, it seems I couldn't manage a timely reply, but I was glad that my post didn't offend and was received in the spirit that it was intended. Gotta say - I like your style man. I'll send some juicy tidbits via email.

Alex
 
luki said:
Von Braun and his team were sent to Huntsville, Alabama and headed the teams at Marshall Space Flight Center that pioneered a lot of the propulsion technology that eventually sent Apollo to the moon, and the Space Shuttle into orbit. That led, in turn, to a huge influx of scientific and technical money to Huntsville to feed the industry that grew up around those early days when Von Braun and his team were doing research.
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Yeah. But only a couple of years ago von Braun worked on the V2 and the V1, the rocket that was sent over to England and (if history would have taken a different road) maybe it would have transported some nazi-nukes...

btw, I'm very happy, too about this thread. It already did cause some rethinking in me...
 
Andrew Benz said:
BTW Curren, we have much in common and here is the link to the company that I hope to do business w/ if all the pieces fall into place. http://www.energyinnovations.com/
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Andrew, Thanks for the link. That looks like a more reasonable solar system and should be available next year. They don't list a price though.

The SES dish won't be available for individuals for at least a couple more years. At least not for a reasonable price. The units are only available for utilities and at a price of $150k-$200k. I would estimate at least 3-4 years before they are available to the public for < $50k. It pisses me off that they can't just go ahead to mass produce these units NOW for a reasonable price! Kinda makes you wonder if......

The main reason I like the SES dish is the high-power output (25kW) and the fact that it uses the Sterling engine which is highly-efficient with very little maintenance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_engine




Here is a little history of SES that I grabbed from their website:

http://www.stirlingenergy.com/products.asp?Type=solar

In 1996, SES acquired the patent, tooling, and equipment rights to the world's most efficient solar dish concentrator system: the Dish Stirling. Initially developed in the 1980s by McDonnell Douglas (now The Boeing Co.) the Dish Stirling system was field-tested by Southern California Edison and Georgia Power for over 175,000 hours between 1982 and 1988. Edison's test data indicated the Dish Stirling out-performed all other solar-to-electric generating systems by a factor of two, yet had comparable start-up costs. SES optimized the McDonnell Douglas dish to operate with a 25kW Stirling power conversion unit (PCU) developed in Sweden by United Stirling, Kockums and Volvo. The resulting system, the "Dish Stirling", has fewer moving parts than comparable diesel engines and operates relatively quietly. The SES Solar Test Site and related tooling and equipment facilities are located at the Boeing facility in Huntington Beach, California. The 25kW SES Dish Stirling system has an operating track record of more than 17 years. Since 1984, it has held the world record for efficiency in converting solar energy into grid-quality electricity.
 
kalone said:
Yeah. But only a couple of years ago von Braun worked on the V2 and the V1, the rocket that was sent over to England and (if history would have taken a different road) maybe it would have transported some nazi-nukes...

btw, I'm very happy, too about this thread. It already did cause some rethinking in me...
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Believe me, I know all about what Von Braun and his team did. I grew up in Huntsville and was immersed in that stuff as a kid.

But growing up where I did gave me perspective on technology from a different view. Huntsville has two huge government facilities - NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center and the US Army's Redstone Arsenal. When many of my friends parents were asked, "What are you, some kinda rocket scientist?" - a lot of them could honestly say, "yes." : )

The militaries of different countries are largely responsible for a vast array of technological innovation, either in invention or in the funds that enabled research breakthroughs. And I always knew growing up that innovation is usually neither good nor bad, it is (usually) just innovation. One of my friends' moms was a research mathematician in the area of fluid dynamics. The work that she and her team did had an impact on how clotting agents for trauma wounds can improve... and also how missiles can more accurately be launched from submarines. Let's not even *start* talking about computing and imaging technology and how much of that comes directly from places like JPL, Lawrence Livermore, DARPA, etc.

In today's economics, the scientific research world cannot thrive and survive at its current pace without the military and military funding. Peel back the layers at any pure research facility and you will find military links somewhere.

To quote one of my favorite movie lines, "Gray. The world is Gray, Jack!"

Lucas Wilson
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ASSIMILATE, Inc.
LA, CA, USA
 
You guys should check this out!

You guys should check this out!

www.steorn.com

Very interesting!

Can't wait to see thresults of the testing... We may never need to charge our reds again...

Jim
 
classic hoax

classic hoax

JimmyC said:
www.steorn.com

Very interesting!

Can't wait to see thresults of the testing... We may never need to charge our reds again...

Jim
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i love the dramatic last minute cancellation of the live demo due to heat from camera lights. the inventor later retracted that claim and stated it was due to the fact that skeptics were actually looking at his demo.
 
Hi Keith,

Great Post!!! I feel the same way. I have a tremendous amount of respect for our brothers and sisters that served in combat in any conflict, but there is very special place in my heart/soul for Vietnam Vets. If my "ying" is working to incorporate (instead of obfuscation and divisive pysop strategies) story lines that nudge the masses into thought instead of apathy then my "yang" is to take the same tools and strategies to raise serious awareness to the plight of many veterans getting their asses handed to them by the VA when they need their help the most---like these poor young men and women who are coming back from Iraq with serious and overwelming pain and problems. I have first hand experience that and I hope to see that no one with a serious and disabling injury gets turned away by institutional apathy and just plain cruel behavior. It needs to be said though that there are many very good and helpful medical professionals in the VA system that feel just as helpless to get vets the help they need. I want to use my RED to build awareness in this area very badly.

Keith, your post is illuminating and very "on point', thank you. The sixties scared the shit out of the establishment giving us layers of corp/gov plausible deniability and many other new "strategies".

Curran stated...
Andrew, Thanks for the link. That looks like a more reasonable solar system and should be available next year. They don't list a price though.
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http://http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.07/solar.html?pg=1&topic=solar&topic_set=

Curran these machines were at first meant to be super cheap but... great article I had you dig it.

Cheers,

Andrew

Keith Nealy said:
Welcome to the "Underground" Andrew.

Good to have you aboard. It's one thing to have a RED revolution - but it's another thing when many owners will be making films to reveal truths.

Many of us who have served have many stories to tell that reveal the inner workings of the alternate realities of the military and government...

I envision a world-wide network of RED owners dedicated to helping each out in co-production supplying everything from footage to rentals to tell some of these stories.

I was a child of the "Sixties" when it was a generation of young people who stood for something and fought for what they believed in. Those of us who have been around the block a few times and been in the business since then like my good friend "Gibby" who I know is lurking out there has seen a great deal of transformation take place and the ebbing away and corruption of a once great nation.

I see that we have a responsibility to our children to try and fix as much as we can before we "shuffle off this mortal coil."

Unfortunately they will have to deal with the environment in their own way but we can help as much as we can by opening up people's eyes.

And I am not advocating that everyone create meaningful docunmentaries. But those of you who create - who write scripts - who have any power over the choice of projects - have a choice to incorporate some topic that will reveal a truth.

We have more power than you realize. We control an unbelieve WMI -Weapon of Mass Instruction. And by using RED - the world will sit up and take notice.

aloha,

keith
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