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HV20 Footage?

I love that little camera. How about those waterproof sanyo excit cameras that record to Mpeg4? I love those things....want one for a pocket cam...just for shooting location scouts and such....the quality is pretty impressive...
 
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Thanks for all the links. Seems a lot of people are interested in this little camera. I just have to wonder when someone is going to hack it to get more control out of it.
 
pat@hpnc.com said:
Thanks for all the links. Seems a lot of people are interested in this little camera. I just have to wonder when someone is going to hack it to get more control out of it.
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I hope somebody comes out with some cool hacks quickly, because I'm thinking seriously about shooting a ultra-low budget this Winter and I might even use 2 or 3 HV20's so that I can trash 'em during the shoot (just need to let off some steam waiting for my RED).... :)

I'm a bit worried about shooting HDV and shooting 24p on this camera, but I might just let it rip anyway.
 
insanityfw said:
I'm a bit worried about shooting HDV and shooting 24p on this camera, but I might just let it rip anyway.
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They are nice little cameras. You'll get good results... the manual settings suck though. I wouldn't worry about HDV these days. Canon seems to have that codec working really well. It ain't like the original HDV stuff by a long shot. I'd rather have RED, but I think people have trashed HDV way beyond reason - and rarely differentiate between the many implementations.

If you were doing a greenscreen movie HDV might add pain... well actually you could take the HDMI out of that camera precompression... so you could do that too.

Anyway - I've seen enough footage from that camera to be a believer. RED is still the real solution though. Shooting RED should be fast and fun WITH mind blowing quality. :-)

If you need an extra hand on your movie let me know.
 
Bruce. I'll actually go pretty easy on them. I'm thinking, in reality, that it might be most feasible to shoot one with a Brevis setup and leave the other for wide shots, pick ups and a few crazy ideas I have in mind. I won't beat up on them too badly.

Ace-I have yet to see any in my friends footage or the very limited amount that I've shot, but I have no doubt that it could crop up.

Joel-Maybe we can talk more about HDV sometime or maybe at the next RED meeting. Thanks for the offer to help, but I don't know if i'm going to entice too many people because it's going to be a quick and cheap psychological-horror flick with a budget at about the price of a lightly kitted RED. My RED should be out around that time, but it's going to be tough to be ready to shoot on the RED and make a feature. WE'll see.

I'll get in touch when I lock down more specifics. I have the location and am working on a pretty cool script, so we'll see.
 
What further hacks do you need? Combine it with a 35mm adapter and you are golden. Don't trash those HV20s, insanityfw, give them to me.
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More manuel controls.
 
pat@hpnc.com said:
More manuel controls.
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exactly. I'm going to have to find shooters that are willing to work with consumer camera controls.

OK, I've hijacked a good portion of this thread. Pat, how's the footage search coming along?

I can't find most of the footage I was originally hunting for, but it's been a good and bad experience.

I'm excited about what this camera can do. I'm more excited about what RED will do, but this camera does seem to give the opportunity to play and experiment.
 
insanityfw said:
exactly. I'm going to have to find shooters that are willing to work with consumer camera controls.
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Most prosumer cameras suck too. Fly-by-wire focus, etc. Most of the DPs I work with come from a film background and hate them!

I'd argue that a HV20 with 35mm adapter has better manual focus controls than any camera for the buck ($2000) - that is, its focus control is the nice focus ring on your 35mm lens ;) Add a follow focus and you have fantastic focus control for less than a "pro" HD camera.

Regarding shutter speed, it's not hard at all to lock it at 1/48. Regarding exposure and white balance, those aren't hard to lock either. You can lock audio levels too. Buy yourself a compact external mixer with real knobs and again, you beat the "pro" HD cameras in the manual control department for less money.

Yes, I wish you could control f-stop / gain independently. But the camera is smart. Throw enough light at it to get the gain down, lock your exposure and go.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
Alexander Nikishin said:
The HV20 packs a punch in resolution, but in all other areas, it's a toy to me.
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Everything is a toy. Its more about how you play the game and how big your budget for toys is. Red is just a cooler toy.:biggrin:
 
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