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RedRock rig for HV20

Tom said:
Hey Bruce, quick question for you here. If I buy the HV20 and want to use it this summer to shoot some outdoor landscape and nature stuff, is there any type of simple grad NDs or polarizer filters I can somehow get onto the HV20? I won't need an adapter because this will be deep-focus stuff. A grad ND would be super useful for me on an HV20.
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Buy a cheap clip-on mattebox such as the Formatt fm-500 and some 4x4 grad filters.

You can always take the top flag off to decrease weight as well.
 
Tom said:
If I buy the HV20 and want to use it this summer to shoot some outdoor landscape and nature stuff, is there any type of simple grad NDs or polarizer filters I can somehow get onto the HV20?
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You could go with Lee, HiTech or Cokin square filter systems for slrs.
Any of them would be plenty big enough to cover the HV20 lens, and fit in simple screw on holders. If you go for the Hitech or Lee filters they come in 4" sizes that should be usable in 4x4 matteboxes too.
 
Tom said:
Hey Bruce, quick question for you here. If I buy the HV20 and want to use it this summer to shoot some outdoor landscape and nature stuff, is there any type of simple grad NDs or polarizer filters I can somehow get onto the HV20? I won't need an adapter because this will be deep-focus stuff. A grad ND would be super useful for me on an HV20.
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I second the above answers! I have a 43mm screw-on pola but for grads you'd want a simple lightweight filter system (eg 4x4 or SLR system). I have used those before (on DV projects, even!). Helps fix latitude issues too. Now I am going for bigger filter sizes than that just because I am a cheapskate (don't want to buy two sizes) and because I am doing the 35mm adapter thing.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
Brian Valente said:
Hi all

I guess things make the rounds :)

This was a concept rig we showed at Cinegear to show that a 35mm lens adapter could be a compact, handheld system, and not limited to just tripod and dolly shots. Also,we wanted to give a flavor of Redrock gear and how it will evolve into the future


Brian
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This is a cool rig and would give an incredible advantage to shooting the hv20 but sooner than later would be sweet. If you decide not to produce, How much do you want for the Proto-type. I need a target # to shoot for!
Thanks.

The green eyed monster rears its ugly head!
 
what is the cheapest 4" mattebox I could get that will fit the HV20? how much are the filters themselves?

any links to retailers?
 
I like how it's upside down, but how do you control manual exposure without an assistant?

Just thinking aloud with cameras like the V1U and XH-A1.

Sweet setup, btw!
 
Tom said:
what is the cheapest 4" mattebox I could get that will fit the HV20? how much are the filters themselves?

any links to retailers?
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There are some cheap copy matte boxes from India on ebay if you want to go that way, about $300 with rods down to $100 for a simple screw on.

Cokin filters are the cheapest, but the NDs are not very neutral.
HiTechs seem OK, and go for about $50 each in the UK.
 
hehe, the problem with the HV20 is that it's so damn cheap, every accessory you buy for it costs more than the camera itself! :)

once i get the camera maybe you guys would be willing to point me to the specific matte box, rails and adapters i am going to need?

what about checking playback in the field on this camera? could I hook it up to a laptop with a 1080p screen? what are the monitoring options?
 
Tom said:
Hey Bruce, quick question for you here. If I buy the HV20 and want to use it this summer to shoot some outdoor landscape and nature stuff, is there any type of simple grad NDs or polarizer filters I can somehow get onto the HV20? I won't need an adapter because this will be deep-focus stuff. A grad ND would be super useful for me on an HV20.
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Doesn't sound like you'd really need it then. Shoulder mount for rail support, rail for adapter and lens support. If you don't need the lens then you don't need the adapter, no need for a rail if you don't need an adapter or no need for a shoulder mount if you don't need a rail.

:)
 
Do I need rails for the 4" matte box? How does it go onto the HV20? What holds it in place?
 
Tom said:
hehe, the problem with the HV20 is that it's so damn cheap, every accessory you buy for it costs more than the camera itself! :)
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Bottom bottom end would be a Cokin P system. maybe $25 for the holder and adaptor ring and then filters at about $25 each. Those are all 84mm filters, so not going to be able to move them to a 4x4 mattebox.

Cokin Z system uses 100mm filters, should likely be usable in a 4x4... although they are kinda thin so a filter holder would make it easier.

From my Sony FX1 experience, the Cokin ND (grey) filters are Ok individually, but any combination of 2 or more NDs and there is a terrible colour cast.
Hitech, Singh-Ray and Lee filters (going up the price scale) have much better feedback on those issues.

Either way with those there would be no flagging, so you'd have to look at a little flag on an arm or something like that and the filters stay in the open on all sides, more vulnerable to dirt and spray.


I have a Formatt mattebox too, and it's Ok, although I'm not wildly in love with it. It will seem HUGE when it is attached to an HV20 though.... it is pretty wide even on the FX1.
 
I've just got a hv20 for my holidays and want to get a 43mm to nikon 35mm adaptor so I can bolt on all my old stills lenses. Can't seem to find anything at b&h, google etc and just wondered if anyone could help me out.
many thanks Johann
 
It's a little more complex of an adapter than you might be thinking.
If you go to Redrock (US) or SGpro (UK) you'll see what's involved.
Both those sites have user forums too.
 
johannperry said:
I've just got a hv20 for my holidays and want to get a 43mm to nikon 35mm adaptor so I can bolt on all my old stills lenses. Can't seem to find anything at b&h, google etc and just wondered if anyone could help me out.
many thanks Johann
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Isn't that the purpose of the brevice adapter at cinevate.com? I believe it is around $1200.00.
I think that they are also in development of a similar system for the hv20 ff and all, but the red rock looks a little more ergonomically inspired and compact.

Correct me If I'm wrong or if this isn't what your looking for.

Good luck
 
Tom said:
Quit being a smartass. :)

It just doesn't look at that stable. Are you sure this sucker isn't gonna fall off my HV20?
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lol, sorry.

Fall off? No way, it's quite the rugged little aluminum beast.

Very strong, dependable, pretty lightweight, a good deal for the money.

Aren't you in CA? If you are, go down to EVS and try one out.
 
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