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Guns in Australia

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How do you film gun fights in Australia if they don't allow guns in the country?
 
Police notification and an armourer, beyond that I'm not certain what the loophole is. It's not a complete ban on all guns, it's related to 'longarms' and automatic weapons.
 
On set, an amourer who posesses the appropriate Firearms License is mandatory as is obviously police notification. Someone recently in Sydney I think caused some trouble shooting a short film when they did an armed hold up scene at the local video store and 'forgot' to tell the cops! To buy/own/store any other weapon in Australia you also need the correct license. I have one, and it's just for an air rifle! Strict guidelines regarding reasons for owning a gun, storing weapons and transporting them apply. However they aren't banned!
 
Australia bans guns???? Are you shitting me? I thought that was the rough and rugged outback country. Surely every farmer would need at least a shotgun just for basic protection from beasts.
 
What tastes better
1 Roo
2 koala
3 wallaby
4 croc

We had an exotic meat store that advertised Aussie food for a while but I didn't make it in there before it went belly up.:blink:
 
Shawn Nelson said:
Australia bans guns???? Are you shitting me? I thought that was the rough and rugged outback country. Surely every farmer would need at least a shotgun just for basic protection from beasts.
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I guess even the Australian government believes in the hereditary imperative of criminality and believes that every one of its subjects is a descendant of the transported criminals and as such just waiting to go berserk and start shooting and robbing banks at gunpoint.

The Canadian government behaves pretty much the same and is working hard to ensure that only the hard core criminals are armed.
 
Hardcore criminals don't really pose a threat to the public here. And yes in Australia you are allowed to own and use a gun, provided you have trained, gotten a license and adhere to all the proper storage conventions.
 
blownapartstudios said:
What tastes better
1 Roo
2 koala
3 wallaby
4 croc

We had an exotic meat store that advertised Aussie food for a while but I didn't make it in there before it went belly up.:blink:
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I've had 1 and 4, and 1 was definitely better.
 
Clint Johnson said:
I guess even the Australian government believes in the hereditary imperative of criminality and believes that every one of its subjects is a descendant of the transported criminals and as such just waiting to go berserk and start shooting and robbing banks at gunpoint.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_(Australia)#Reaction

Excuse the poor style there.

For more background and detail,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Australia

There's a little more to it than Government paranoia.
 
cailyoung said:
There's a little more to it than Government paranoia.
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Yes, pandering for votes is a much bigger factor than paranoia. And that only works if a large portion of the population is convinced that the state can keep guns out of the hands of the hand of law breakers by passing laws...

I just can't understand how someone can believe that any gun law can keep firearms out of the hands of people who are willing to go on a killing spree? The harshest punishment under most legal systems is reserved for the taking of a human life- now if the individual is eager to break that law, why would they hesitate to break another, lesser, crime? Especially when these damaged individuals are also planning to kill themselves afterwards?

Firearms are much easier to make than cocaine and how successful have we been in eliminating that from society? Any competent metalworker in any of the tens of thousands of metal fabrication facilities can make a fully functional, fully automatic assault rifle- complete with sound suppressor if they want- in a few nights. There are people in the developing world who manufacture crude but working AK-47 knock offs with not much more than a sandbox for making molds, a few files and an ancient drill press.

Looked at objectively, the only thing that these restrictive firearm laws can do is make it far more likely that all of the victims are unarmed and unable to protect themselves and the people around them. Whenever I hear about one of those mass killings, the first thing I think about is the fact that, as a law abiding person, there is absolutely nothing I could do for myself or anyone else there. I could try to stop a man with my bare hands or I could try to run and hide... one is most likely to get me killed and the other will leave me feeling like a useless coward who didn't do anything to help the people around me when they were in such need of that help. Thanks for those great options Canada.
 
Clint Johnson said:
Yup, as bad as those damn "freedom of speech" fanatics.
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There is a nice quote for this: Freedom of speech my ass!
By the way, this is Jarred's territory, so he's setting the rights here.
But yes, it's definately going to please everyone if I call black people stupid n***** or latin american people as w*******, or if I make a signature that states: loggers are retarded. Freedom of speech, you see...

( Clint, the above is not entirely directed at you, but when people yell "freedom of speech", it's mainly going to negatively affect minorities like me, jews, blacks and so on. It's very easy for white people to make such "nice" statements as they rarely have to bear those "free" speeches )
 
My comment about free speech wasn't a defense of my right to comment here, it was drawing a correlation between what I see as two fundamental rights.

Free speech is not applicable on a forum like this since this is Jarred's house and he sets the rules about what is and is not acceptable here. Free speech would only be applicable if we were to talk about my own website and any state censorship placed on what I can or cannot say there.

And I do see free speech as a fundamental right that is far, far more important than the "right" of people not to get their feelings hurt. I judge my dedication to this right by how strongly I defend those who say things I most disagree with. It is easy to defend words when you agree with them, much less so when you find them reprehensible. Good manners should keep people from talking or writing like that but it should not take precedence over a fundamental right that is there to protect our ability to discuss subjects that are unpopular at any particular time... without free speech, censorship could have been used to silence those who spoke out against slavery when that was a very unpopular stand to take.

If racists know that I am part Cree they should be free to call me a Chug, Nitche, Redskin or a Wagon Burner. Seeing as how I am pretty pale, they could call me an Anglo-pilferer or Gubba in Australia if they want... Cracker or Honky works better here in North America. There is also some low born Irish ancestry so they can call me Bog Irish, Paddy, Pikey, Mick or White N*****... while the full on Irish can call me a Plastic Paddy. Some Eastern European blood as well means I'm a Bohunk. The French in me leads to Frog or Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey. And I hear that Crackhead is becoming popular as an derisive name for Canadians as well as the old standbys Hoser and Snowback. The Japanese can call me Gaijin. The Chinese can call me Gweilo. There is some Jewish ancestry as well so they can call me a Hebe or a Kike... but the lineage wouldn't be accepted by the Jewish community so they can call me Goy. I spent a good portion of my life living in trailers so I am a Redneck Trailer Trash Peckerwood. And that mess of an ancestry, combined with my atheistic lack of belief and my libertarian stand, means that I am a Mongrel Heathen Capitalist Pig who can be legitimately despised by every self respecting racist irregardless of their race, creed or religion. There are many places in this world where I could be beaten or killed for what I am.

And Kalone... I will defend your right to call loggers retarded.
 
I always preferred the term "Heinz 57 varieties," myself.
 
is this why Crocodile Dundee carried that big-ass knife?
 
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