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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

AJA card and Red

Thanks again Graeme. Yeah, Avid plus an nVidia graphics card would drive an LCD as second monitor.
 
Sean, you should be fine.

Graeme
 
If I have the money, I'm thinking about using Boxx systems. Expensive, but seem to have established a great reputation.

Luki, has Assimilate been looking at the new generation of DirectX10 cards? Seems like they could be an affordable alternative
to expensive OpenGL cards.
 
zeke said:
If I have the money, I'm thinking about using Boxx systems. Expensive, but seem to have established a great reputation.

Luki, has Assimilate been looking at the new generation of DirectX10 cards? Seems like they could be an affordable alternative
to expensive OpenGL cards.
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Hi Zeke,

You're right - BOXX is a good company with a deservedly good reputation. Quite a few of our customers own BOXX systems.

DX10 cards - we are looking at DX10, but for many reasons - OGL is a better way to go at the high-end of high-performance.

Best,

Lucas Wilson
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ASSIMILATE, Inc.
Los Angeles
 
REDCINE created REDCODE RGB file playback

REDCINE created REDCODE RGB file playback

Chris, if I understand your request (play REDCINE REDCODE RGB file back via the camera) this isn't likely to be honest.

A camera original RGB recorded file, yes; but a camera original recorded RAW file converted to RGB in REDCINE, not likely to work.

We do have a bunch of programming geniuses here, but once its past the camera into the post production chain we wouldn't normally care....

We'll keep it in mind though - you never know.
 
luki said:
Hi Zeke,

You're right - BOXX is a good company with a deservedly good reputation. Quite a few of our customers own BOXX systems.

DX10 cards - we are looking at DX10, but for many reasons - OGL is a better way to go at the high-end of high-performance.

Best,

Lucas Wilson
------------
ASSIMILATE, Inc.
Los Angeles
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Do the current crop of high end OpenGL cards support higher than 8bit per channel color? (I've neve owned one).

Joe C.
 
zeke said:
Do the current crop of high end OpenGL cards support higher than 8bit per channel color? (I've neve owned one).
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Joe... depends on what you mean.

Processing? Absolutely. If utilized properly, everything on the Quadro GPUs is done at 32-bit float.

Realtime Output? Yes... the FX4500/5500-SDI can output 10-bit 4:4:4 at up to 2048x1080. The DVI connectors are certainly capable of greater than 8-bit, but... what monitor will you use? Every LCD on the planet is 8-bit, and their EDIDs correctly report 8-bit. Analog CRTs certainly don't have that issue, but they are a dying (and no longer manufactured) breed.

Rendered Output? See "Processing" comment. :)

Lucas Wilson
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ASSIMILATE, Inc.
Los Angeles
 
Stuart English said:
Chris, if I understand your request (play REDCINE REDCODE RGB file back via the camera) this isn't likely to be honest.

A camera original RGB recorded file, yes; but a camera original recorded RAW file converted to RGB in REDCINE, not likely to work.

We do have a bunch of programming geniuses here, but once its past the camera into the post production chain we wouldn't normally care....

We'll keep it in mind though - you never know.
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I'm just thinking that if I'm on the road with just a laptop (no AJA card, etc.), this might be a convenient way to get edited footage out to a monitor or deck.

It's not really a big deal if the camera can't do this, though. There are DVI -> HD-SDI converters that are easily portable, and DVI/HDMI ports are popping up on everything these days anyway, so it should be pretty easy to just go straight out of a laptop.
 
Often editing cards are used to maximize the performance of realtime playback/effects; like Matrox Axio....

Are Red working with any maufacurers to provide any kind of acceleration with Redcode?

Is Redcode performance, rendering, and fx on the timeline based purely the CPU/GPU power? or will a dedicated editing card help? (if not now, anything in the pipline?)

If the answer is 'no' then what is the advanatge of a Kona 3 over something cheaper like blackmagic when outputing redcode 2k to a monitor or deck?

thanks for any insights...
 
luki said:
Joe... depends on what you mean.

Processing? Absolutely. If utilized properly, everything on the Quadro GPUs is done at 32-bit float.

Realtime Output? Yes... the FX4500/5500-SDI can output 10-bit 4:4:4 at up to 2048x1080. The DVI connectors are certainly capable of greater than 8-bit, but... what monitor will you use? Every LCD on the planet is 8-bit, and their EDIDs correctly report 8-bit. Analog CRTs certainly don't have that issue, but they are a dying (and no longer manufactured) breed.

Rendered Output? See "Processing" comment. :)

Lucas Wilson
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ASSIMILATE, Inc.
Los Angeles
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Thanks, I was just wondering. 32bitfpp per channel is more than good enough.
I thought the JVC lcd studio monitor supported 10bit. It has SDI input support (as an option).
 
Every LCD on the planet is 8-bit
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NEC seems to have a 10-bit panel... I wonder if it is useful for film/video applications?

2- The JVC LCD studio monitor probably supports 10-bit SDI input. The panel itself is likely 8-bit, with the effective performance likely lower than that after calibration LUTs.
 
GlennChan said:
NEC seems to have a 10-bit panel... I wonder if it is useful for film/video applications?

2- The JVC LCD studio monitor probably supports 10-bit SDI input. The panel itself is likely 8-bit, with the effective performance likely lower than that after calibration LUTs.
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Glenn - Looking at:

http://www.nec-lcd.com/en/products/monitor.html
http://www.nec-lcd.com/en/products/industrial.html
http://www.nec-lcd.com/en/products/mobile.html

Everything is 8-bit or lower. Can you point me to info about the NEC panel? If there is truly a 10-bit LCD out there, that means some fundamental technology and manufacturing shifts, and would be huge news...

JVC panel... is a lot like other studio-quality LCD panels, like eCinema and CineTal. They support 10-bit SDI input, but only display at 8-bit.

Lucas
 
NEC has 10-bit color processing on some of their higher-end LCD monitors, but in the end, the display panel itself is still 8-bit. They're not unique in this regard, most LCD TVs and better LCD displays out there have 10 or 12 bit color processing via HDMI and DVI inputs. ...The display panels are all still limited to 8-bit.

There are currently no LCD panels on the market from any manufacturer that display in excess of 8bits per channel. None. Nada. However, such displays are coming... 10bpc LCDs with 120Hz refresh have been demonstrated, but are mostly 768p/1080p panels targeted for HDTV use and we'll see a couple from makers like SHARP later this year. Don't know about upcoming computer monitor panels with higher resolutions... ChiMei, Samsung have both shown "4K" panels. Hitachi and Samsung have both shown 200ppi+ panels (Hitachi used to produce the 22" 3840x2400 panel for the IBM / ViewSonic QWUXGA display). Going to be another interesting year.
 
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