Rumor started in LA

[Greg M]

A DP friend in L.A. just called and said he was told the Red camera has just been killed and that development has ceased.

I told him this was not true, in fact Jim posted just yesterday that in March we would have more detail on the initial package.

Just curious how this started.

Jarred edit:

not true.. of course.

 

[Jason Ramsey]

haters

 

[Jason Francois]

I know it wasn't me, but that still leaves a lot of people.

 

[Mark Thorpe]

You hit the nail on the head its a ........

RUMOUR

Nothing heard from RED, so at the moment it can only be interpreted as mutterings from yet another heckler. Sad people.

 

[Zakaree Sandberg]

i know for a FACT thats complete BS but im not allowed to say how i know... just trust me

 

[Mark Thorpe]

I request that you ask your friend to post directly to this board, or tell him / her to shut the F... Up. Ask him to share his source of information with the thousands of industry related people and RED Team who frequent this board. If he / she can't do that then they have no credibility to the comments they make.

Unless he / she is a duly appointed RED rep then all I can think of is that he / she is just another cog in the rumour mill which continually looks for ways to attack RED's developments and the efforts of Jim and Co.

Cheers,
Mark.

 

[Tonaci Tran]

Whats up with these people who want to see RED fail? Oh well.. this won't be the last of the false rumors.

 

[Greg M]

I request that you ask your friend to post directly to this board, or tell him / her to shut the F... Up.

Just to clairify...he is not spreading the story, he heard it on a shoot and asked me if I knew anything.

 

[Rick Darge]

They want to see it fail because they know that once the RED is released, everyone will have the same access - They will no longer be the amongst the privileged that currently shoot on 35 or other high end HD systems... They will be assimilated with folks like us

Viva La Revolution !

 

[Zakaree Sandberg]

They want to see it fail because they know that once the RED is released, everyone will have the same access - They will no longer be the amongst the privileged that currently shoot on 35 or other high end HD systems... They will be assimilated with folks like us

Viva La Revolution !

because the high end DP's will be threatened as far as jobs go..
Now young talent with access to a high quality camera will be able to show up and produce some amazing images.. im not saying any shmoe with 17,5 will be able to make the next big film.. but it opens up the game for talented people to come in and blow the old foggies out of the water.. or at least push them to the side a lil

 

[Roberto B]

exactly..

 

[Petr Dvorak]

rumours are waste of time
facts are important

 

[Finner]

I request that you ask your friend to post directly to this board, or tell him / her to shut the F... Up.

Cheers,
Mark.

I don't understand why people are filled with so much fear and lash out like this when someone questions the RED camera. Fear like this is usually bred from feelings of insecurity on the topic.

Give me a break. The guys friend heard the rumour contacted him and told him that he had heard this rumour and that he may want to check it out. Myself or anyone else here would contact their friends if they had heard a rumour that may effect that friend.

People are going to say stuff. Big deal. In the end us with reservations will just get the jump on those that sit on the fence, buy into rumours or start the rumours.

There is no use lashing out at these people instead we can just shut them up when we all start to produce great results with our cameras. Meanwhile they will be stuck having to sign up to a long waiting list if they want one.

 

[Jannard]

Tell your friend he has bad information... and you heard it from me.

Jim

 

[Billy Summers]

Dream on, haters, dream on...

 

[donatello b]

i don't think hi end DP's are not threaten by any camera - it's not the camera that got them up the pay scale ... the more DP's that are good/excellent the better we all become at our craft ...

IMO it the persons near the low end that are uneasy ...

 

[Finner]

They want to see it fail because they know that once the RED is released, everyone will have the same access - They will no longer be the amongst the privileged that currently shoot on 35 or other high end HD systems... They will be assimilated with folks like us

Viva La Revolution !

I have heard this argument from a few people and I don't really buy it. For some older established DP's the thought of digital scares them but more because the don't know it and really just want to stick to film. For them as digital moves to the forefront they will just phase out and retire. As for a lot of the good established older DP's they can shoot on anything they want. If anyone thinks they will be able to jump ahead of a feature film level DP just because you own a RED and have shot a short you are dead wrong. Any big DP will be able to rent a RED for their movie as soon as it starts to come out. They will also have huge crews and any lighting gear they want. I highly doubt a DP with 25 years or more of experience is scared of this camera.

Now why I think these rumours start:

1 word- EGO

This bussiness is filled with some of the biggest EGO's anywhere. DOP's tend to think they know everything about cameras and thus can judge everything camera related. If a DOP respects another DOP and hears him say RED can't be done he buy's it. EGO's will make people believe and say a lot of things that just are not true.

My thoughts

 

[Mark Thorpe]

I don't understand why people are filled with so much fear and lash out like this

Hey Finner,
I am neither filled with fear nor am I lashing out. I make an invitation for people starting rumours to post directly here and share their info sources with all of us. If they can't do that then they should stay quiet, period. Why start ripples of negativity in an area populated with positive people?

 

[Vincent Rice]

This bussiness is filled with some of the biggest EGO's anywhere.

Wow, you don't say...

 

[Finner]

Hey Finner,
I am neither filled with fear nor am I lashing out. I make an invitation for people starting rumours to post directly here and share their info sources with all of us. If they can't do that then they should stay quiet, period. Why start ripples of negativity in an area populated with positive people?

Because people are going to feel real comfortable posting rumours they hear and share there info sources when the members here come back with kind words like "shut the F... up".