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A question of tripods...

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I'll be looking into a new tripod system to go with my RED One. What to get? Any good recommendations. I currently use a Cartoni F101 system with my HVX200 (Focus 100 fluid head, aluminum legs) it works great. But I don't know if this will be adequate for RED and all the lens options. The F101 legs and head say up to 22lbs capacity, but I think I'm going to need something more.

What sort of thoughts does everyone have? I've looked at some of the bigger Cartoni offerings and some tripod systems/heads from Miller, but that's about it.
 
Well I would like to get the System Cine 75 HD from Sachtler:
Fluid head Cine 75 HD + tripod Cine 2000 long + spreader SP 150 EX
It's around 9500 euros new, and it's too recent to be found second hand, but with sachtler build quality, I may be set for ever with this.
 
Emmanuel Cambier said:
Well I would like to get the System Cine 75 HD from Sachtler:
Fluid head Cine 75 HD + tripod Cine 2000 long + spreader SP 150 EX
It's around 9500 euros new, and it's too recent to be found second hand, but with sachtler build quality, I may be set for ever with this.
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Hi,

I don't know how heavy a lens you intend to use, however IMHO it is bigger than you want. I was using one last week, it would not be my first choice.

Stephen
 
I have had good experiences with O'Connor heads, their HQ is only a couple of miles from me so it is easy to get stuff changed or fixed on my DV studio head. The 1030 is probably a good choice for Red One, it could handle a zoom lens and follow focus and medium matte box pretty well. I have had no problem with full sized HD cameras on this head. The Vitec group owns them, and just about every other tripod/head company out there. Vitec was previously known as Vinten and they also own Sachtler.
 
Stephen Williams said:
Hi,

I don't know how heavy a lens you intend to use, however IMHO it is bigger than you want. I was using one last week, it would not be my first choice.

Stephen
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Hi Stephen
I am all ears really.
Wich Sachtler fluid head would you recommand then(for us europeans)?
7+7, 9+9 or else?
Could you give us a short (but longer than you just did:D )review of the HD Cine75.
Thanks
 
I've an old O'Connor 100-C head, it's big but it's been adequate before so I don't see why I should spend more replacing it with an update.

It can hold up to 100lbs so weight shouldn't be a problem!
 
Emmanuel Cambier said:
Hi Stephen
I am all ears really.
Wich Sachtler fluid head would you recommand then(for us europeans)?
7+7, 9+9 or else?
Could you give us a short (but longer than you just did:D )review of the HD Cine75.
Thanks
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Hi Emmanuel,

If I had a big budget for a head I would go with an O'conner. On a lower budget, Cartoni make some nice heads, they come with a 5 year guarantee.

The HD Cine 75 is OK if you have a very heavy zoom & extras.

Stephen
 
I also use the Cartoni with the focus head. I think it will be able to handle a very stripped down RED. But I do think we need to go bigger. I am looking at the Cartoni Delta. I have used there heads for awhile now and just love the way they work. Good stuff. But it dose cost.
 
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I also use the Cartoni with the focus head. I think it will be able to handle a very stripped down RED. But I do think we need to go bigger. I am looking at the Cartoni Delta. I have used there heads for awhile now and just love the way they work. Good stuff. But it dose cost.
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Yeah, I've really grown to like my Cartoni Focus and I may hold off until I actually have my RED to decide on a new tripod. I don't know how much the RED and all the other stuff to go with it is going to weigh just yet. I'm looking at both their D600 Delta and G100 Gamma heads and it looks like either work with the same leg configurations. Delta w/ appropriate legs holds up to 38lbs and Gama up to 35lbs.

I'll have to check out some of the others talked about here too.
 
The O'Connor HD is pretty pricey at $7K. Add another $2K for legs.

The Cartoni Focus is probably too light for a full set up. If RED comes in at 6 pounds + zoom lens 8 pounds (guessing) + mattebox + filters + EVF + LCD + FF + attatchments...


Is there a tripod system (or just head) in between the Oconnor and the Focus ?
 
Wow 9 grand is crazy, can anyone suggest a good budget option?
 
Stephen Williams said:
Hi Emmanuel,

If I had a big budget for a head I would go with an O'conner. On a lower budget, Cartoni make some nice heads, they come with a 5 year guarantee.

The HD Cine 75 is OK if you have a very heavy zoom & extras.

Stephen
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Hi Stephen
Well the HD Cine 75 payload is 9-165 lb
so of course with RedOne body at 6 lb you'd need something more on top of it. I heard the viewfinder will be quite heavy,plus lens, battery, rails, Mattebox, LCD for the assistant, RedDrive… we should go slightly past the 9 lb.Would it be enough (with a prime or a normal zoom).
Since you've just used it could you comment on it's smoothness and usability?
 
Get on it curt... I am not going to see a camera for at least that long. If you came up with a even just a head. That could hold and perform half as good as the Delta for around 2 or 5 grand allot of people will be in.
 
I'm going to see how well my Cartoni Focus works, then go from there...perhaps the next Cartoni step up.
 
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