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Angenieux c-mount lenses

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Lee Saxon

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Thinking about a collection of Angenieux c-mount lenses for my future Scarlet 2/3". I like the wacky busy bokeh.

Already bought the 15 1.3 and I know I want the 5.9 1.8, 10 1.8, and 25 0.95.

Anybody know what other ones are out there?
 
12-120 and 15-150 zoomlenses. Of the second one I know there is supposed to be two versions. One is a little faster but a lot bigger and heavier. We have a small 15-150 here but still haven't used it, but really looking forward to see what it does on a Scarlet. I've only seen a few stills from that, but that looked pretty nice.

But it looks like you started on a nice collection there...
 
12-120's are readily available at pretty cheap prices on Ebay. You want the "B" version and if you can find one the later T2.1 HEC version has much better color contrast. If you buy one off Ebay plan to have it cleaned and serviced, $600-800 or so. Nice constant speed flexible zoom. The older f2.2/T2.8 versions are a bit soft wide open, but good from f2.8 if they are in good condition. These things were used by the thousands on TV 16mm news cameras and some of them led very rough lives, so stay away from any that look like real beaters.
From reputable dealers like Whitehouse or Visual Products a clean fully serviced one will run from about $800 up.
I'm hoping Red has designed their mini-Red mount so that a simple screw on flange adapter can be used for C-mount lenses, I guess we will find out before too long. I have purchased some inexpensive PL mount flange adapters to try with mine.
 
I'm thinking about getting the 12-120 or 9.5-57 for a zoom.

But in this case I was wondering about the primes, do you guys know what other options there are besides the ones I mentioned?
 
Bolex Switars and Yvars, the none RX versions.
Though they are rare in good condition, the Kodak Ektars are nice. Very sharp with good color contrast.
Don't ignore Arri mount 16mm primes from Schneider, Cooke, and Zeiss. These can be converted to PL mount with a flange adapter.
Check out the C-mount lens/M4/3 group at Flickr for some still photos shot with 16mm glass. Most of these lenses vignette on 4/3 format, but will cover fully on 2/3".

http://www.flickr.com/groups/c-mount_/pool/with/4979979866/

Found this collectors blog with some nice examples organized and identified by lens.

http://hokkorihokorin.blog26.fc2.com/blog-entry-157.html

One side effect of the popularity of these old lenses with M4/3 shooters is that prices for the best examples have gone up considerably. Red's mini-primes will no doubt be superior and in many cases cheaper.
 
I have the angenieux 5.9 available and I believe another. Maybe the 75mm as well as the 12-120 & 9.5-57. The primes are actually very good. I know the 12-120mm does not cover 2K completely.
 
2k on Red 1 is larger than standard 16mm by a bit. Coverage on 2/3" won't be a problem.
 
Lee Saxon said:
Very cool links, thanks David
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You're welcome. I'm looking forward to playing with some vintage glass myself. Been picking up a lens here and there for the last two years. Still had some left from my 16mm days.
 
Lee Saxon said:
Thinking about a collection of Angenieux c-mount lenses for my future Scarlet 2/3". I like the wacky busy bokeh.

Already bought the 15 1.3 and I know I want the 5.9 1.8, 10 1.8, and 25 0.95.

Anybody know what other ones are out there?
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There was a 15,50 and 75mm in "C" mount. Also a 16-44 very high speed zoom which if I recall right covered S16. The 12-120 does not cover S16 at the wide end but the 15-150 does.
 
Lee Saxon said:
I'm thinking about getting the 12-120 or 9.5-57 for a zoom.

But in this case I was wondering about the primes, do you guys know what other options there are besides the ones I mentioned?
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To the best of my knowledge, this is the complete line up of Angenieux primes in c-mount:

Angenieux 1.8/5,9mm - fixed focus
Angenieux 1.8/10mm
Angenieux 1.3/15mm
Angenieux 0.95/25mm
Angenieux 1.4/25mm
Angenieux 1.5/50mm
Angenieux 2.5/75mm
Angenieux 2.5/100mm
Angenieux 2.7/150mm
 
Well, I sold this lens once it became clear that the 2/3" wasn't going to happen. Now that Blackmagic is releasing a S-16 camera, I'm thinking that might've been a mistake.

What format were these lenses primarily designed for? 8mm, 16mm, 1/2", 1", etc? Anyone know if any of them, particularly the wides (I know teles often cover larger than expected), will cover S-16?

There's a few posts over on bmcuser.com about c-mount lenses but they're 97% speculation...
 
Most of the wider ones won't cover S-16, only N-16. Starting from 25mm you've got a chance.

I have no Angies here, but I'm currently testing a bunch of Schneider, Kern, Canon, Zeiss (Jena) and the like on the BMPCC.
 
Check out the Kowa C mount 10m pixel 2/3 lenses they are excellent.
 
But 2/3 inch is definitely not covering S-16. There are some 1" lenses that do.
 
With C-mount flange to focal plane distance of 17.5mm, are you going to have enough space rearwards of the front of the Epic/Scarlet casework to achieve infinity focus on the sensor. If you can and a special dished mount is somehow contrivable, will there remain enough side clearance for the C-mount lens bodies? I would be interested to know for my own selfish reasons.
 
Given that even some Leica-M lenses have clearance problems with the plastic shroud around the sensor, I bet c-mount is impossible. This thread was originally about the ill-fated 2/3" Scarlet, not the S35 versions.
 
Get the BlackMagic Pocket Camera then…
 
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