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Just when you thought the DRAGON was the king...

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A new sensor coming out with 1000x more light sensitivity than current sensors.
+80% power savings... 5x cheaper to make.

If Dragon doesn't come out soon and blow us all away... This new Graphene sensor tech might turn up in another camera and topple the RED giant.
Or hopefully RED have there eye on this already.

What a crazy world !

http://www.gizmag.com/graphene-imaging-sensor/27718/

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A team of scientists at Nanyang Technological University (NTU) in Singapore has developed a new image sensor from graphene that promises to improve the quality of images captured in low light conditions. In tests, NTU claims it has proved to be 1,000 times more sensitive to light than existing complementary metal-oxide-semiconductor (CMOS) or charge-coupled device (CCD) camera sensors in addition to operating at much lower voltages, consequently using 10 times less energy.
The new sensor is able to detect broad spectrum light, from the visible to mid-infrared, with great sensitivity. This will make it ideal for use in all types of cameras, including infrared cameras, traffic safety cameras, satellite imaging, and more. According to NTU, this technology will allow photographers to take much clearer images in harsh lighting conditions and, when mass produced, estimates are that graphene sensors will be up to five times cheaper than camera sensors today.
The research was led by Assistant Professor Wang Qijie from NTU’s School of Electrical & Electronic Engineering and has been ongoing for two years. “We have shown that it is now possible to create cheap, sensitive and flexible photo sensors from graphene alone. We expect our innovation will have great impact not only on the consumer imaging industry, but also in satellite imaging and communication industries, as well as the mid-infrared applications,” says Wang,
What is clearly exciting for the camera industry is how little needs to be done to introduce graphene to existing CMOS sensors.
“While designing this sensor, we have kept current manufacturing practices in mind," explains Asst. Prof Wang. "This means the industry can in principle continue producing camera sensors using the CMOS process, which is the prevailing technology used by the majority of factories in the electronics industry. Therefore manufacturers can easily replace the current base material of photo sensors with our new nanostructured graphene material.”
Graphene nano-structures

Graphene is a material composed of pure carbon with atoms arranged in a regular hexagonal pattern. It is a one-atom thick layer of the mineral graphite, a million times smaller than the thickest human hair and is known to have a high electrical conductivity and is very light, with a 1-square-meter sheet weighing only 0.77 milligrams.
Asst. Prof Wang has devised a novel way to create nanostructures on graphene which "trap" light-generated electron particles for a longer period of time, translating into a stronger electrical signal. These electrical signals are then processed into an image, such as a photograph captured by a digital camera.
The "trapped electrons" are the key to achieving high photoresponse in graphene, which makes it far more effective than the normal CMOS or CCD image sensors, said Asst Prof Wang. Essentially, the stronger the electric signals generated, the clearer and sharper the photos.
"The performance of our graphene sensor can be further improved, such as the response speed, through nanostructure engineering of graphene, and preliminary results already verified the feasibility of our concept," Asst. Prof Wang says.
 
Super cool and most likely years away before we will see it in a working camera. The Dragon may be good enough, but cheaper, more sensitive and less power hungry could easily make a smaller, lighter camera. It's a brave new world.
 
I've been saying, for a while now...

Get ready for the day way you take out your PL mount prime lens, take the rear cap off, put another "specialized" rear cap on, and there's your rig. ...ready to shoot!

Apparently, it will be made out of graphene. :emote_popcorn:
 
Girl scout cookies are a primary source of Graphene I remember reading... Now if I could only stop eating them and get down making sensors!
 
Does red have their eyes on this technology ????
 
As the latest comment under the linked article points out (Search for comment from Michael Pavel):

The 1000x increase (about 3 orders of magnitude) is in comparisation to existing GRAPHENE sensor technology, as pointed out in the abstract of the underlying paper:

http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v4/n5/full/ncomms2830.html

Also since normal CCD technology has already a quantum efficiency (conversion rate from photons to electrons) of 99%, an increase by a factor of 1000 is impossible. Now, of course there are other things to improve like dynamic range - so the fact that QE cannot be increased much does not mean that you cant vastly improve existing sensors in other areas.


According to this article:

http://spectrum.ieee.org/nanoclast/...ensor-achieves-new-level-of-light-sensitivity

the confusion goes back to the press release of Nanyang University.

So yes the technology is exciting, and we certainly will see many interesting applications of graphene in the future, but the technology is not as ready as the original article suggests. From what I heard, one main problem is fabricating industry scale amounts of (atom thick) graphene layers wich is currently a hot subject of reserach.
 
I've been saying, for a while now...

Get ready for the day way you take out your PL mount prime lens, take the rear cap off, put another "specialized" rear cap on, and there's your rig. ...ready to shoot!

Apparently, it will be made out of graphene. :emote_popcorn:



+1 .
 
interesting.
 
Thank you for the for the links and the reality check, C. Miersch. The future holds a lot of possibilities, of course.
 
No doubt sensor technology will continue to evolve very fast, the trick is finding lenses to keep up. We ret already seeing that becoming a slight problem with the Dragon 6K and well as high end DSLRs, the sensors are simple better that the average lens. If we hit a wall with optics it won't matter if we can have 8K, 16K, 32K etc.
 
1000 times more sensitive sounds cool, but doe s this mean we will have to stop it down a lot more which would affect the image, or will this sensor only be interesting in a night camera, or extremely low light environments? Would it be king if you need a 100 time ND film.
 
Cooolll! Let's see which company will use it first !!! :biggrin: RED !? SONY !? BLACK MAGIC !? CANON !? PANASONIC !?
Need some $$$ to open my own Camera making company in the name of "ORANGE" I will surely use GRAPHEN Sensor !lol :emote_happyhappy:
 
It's a telescope sensor, for measuring different wavelengths of starlight, I'm not sure you would even get an optical image from it, so if you measure every spectrum of light with several thousand or millions of steps/gradations of intensity, I'm surprised its only x1000 more sensitive. The Red doesn't exactly record x-rays and microwaves. I do appreciate the humor of the Thread.
 
As the latest comment under the linked article points out (Search for comment from Michael Pavel):

The 1000x increase (about 3 orders of magnitude) is in comparisation to existing GRAPHENE sensor technology, as pointed out in the abstract of the underlying paper:

http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v4/n5/full/ncomms2830.html

Also since normal CCD technology has already a quantum efficiency (conversion rate from photons to electrons) of 99%, an increase by a factor of 1000 is impossible. Now, of course there are other things to improve like dynamic range - so the fact that QE cannot be increased much does not mean that you cant vastly improve existing sensors in other areas.


According to this article:

http://spectrum.ieee.org/nanoclast/...ensor-achieves-new-level-of-light-sensitivity

the confusion goes back to the press release of Nanyang University.

So yes the technology is exciting, and we certainly will see many interesting applications of graphene in the future, but the technology is not as ready as the original article suggests. From what I heard, one main problem is fabricating industry scale amounts of (atom thick) graphene layers wich is currently a hot subject of reserach.

There's a lot of interest in exploring the properties of graphene, I suspect we'll see some pretty cool tech within the next 10-20 years (possibly less). Having said that... I seem to recall this particular research was published in an online only journal. Based on the absurd claims and the lack of reputable publishing I initially dismissed the entire article... but what you're pointing out could very likely be translation errors, so it's possible I was unduly harsh (I think I posted in a different thread about it).
 
I've been saying, for a while now...

Get ready for the day way you take out your PL mount prime lens, take the rear cap off, put another "specialized" rear cap on, and there's your rig. ...ready to shoot!

Apparently, it will be made out of graphene. :emote_popcorn:

My belief is that lenses will eventually go away. You will have a box the size of a GOPRO that you will aim in the general direction of your subject. Everything will record to the cloud. In post you will literally reframe, choose focus, lens focal length, f/stop, color balance, ASA. Glass will be a thing of the past.
 
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