New Mac Pro Announced at WWDC! - It's OFFICIAL!

[Joe Kleber]

Joe - this is simply based on it's architecture and packet bidirectional protocol, which is in principal identical to GBe. You can trunk GBe's for pretty much linear scaling. It is only question of time before someone cashes in on this...

:sifone: Peter

Fair enough. It's critical that this is doable. Without this feature, this new design is fatally crippled. IMHO

 

[michael zaletel]

CNET Article on 2013 Mac Pro

 

[Jason Myres]

How the hell am I going to rackmount that thing...?!?

You're not kidding. Any hope for a machine Apple IT pros could take advantage of, just died today.

 

[Matt Gottshalk]

How the hell am I going to rackmount that thing...?!?

But it lights up when you turn it over to plug in the sphaghetti of tb cords!

 

[Ethan Cooper]

Reminds me of the Apple i

http://youtu.be/Xgls9IwWUyU

 

[Eric Santiago]

So non upgradeable and dual AMD gpus. I guess I just made a decision to stay clear...

Isnt that what Thunderbolt 2 is for?

No different than what we have to do with our MacPro RCX, Avid and Protools plus CUBIX.

 

[michael zaletel]

How the hell am I going to rackmount that thing...?!?

Build a custom case to hold 4 side by side!

If you have more U available, how about a vertical 12-pack and a smile!

 

[Joe Kleber]

Build a custom case to hold 4 side by side!

...would make a for a very cool looking render farm.

 

[BrandonChristensen]

I just built a hackintosh...damnit.

 

[Bruce Allen]

Bruce - Thunderbolt is stackable, you can use all 6 TB2 ports to connect a single enclosure (my bet is on Magma releasing such a enclosure first)...

:sifone: Peter

OK. Well... let's pretend they actually get this to work.

(I'm a little dubious myself - a lot of people predicted a plethora of external Thundebolt GPU options and they haven't materialized for various reasons either).

Then I'll have two GTX Titans each sharing a few TB ports... and an incompatible AMD GPU architecture inside the Mac Pro that I can't use... and another TB port for GigE. Now I'm out of TB ports.

I really do think that having the GPU soldered in is a deliberate attempt to make these things go obsolete more quickly.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

 

[Todd T]

...would make a for a very cool looking render farm.

 

[shashbugu]

hmm! Apple, have you been drinking the same brew as Adobe has? I guess in todays media industry if you are above 30 years of age you are not considered really relevant.

Questions,
flash drives =how fast are they?
External thunderbolt2 raid arrays are they as reliable and fast as the SAS Atto controlled arrays we are used to? Or are they faster?
AMD makes Open CL GPU's, Are they as fast as Cuda cards? would we be missing the new nvidia quadro 5000
Wil Apple be releasing 4k displays?
Blackmagic and Matrox already have thunderbolt video cards who has used them?

i know I'll definitely buy the new mac pro when its out.
I predominantly use Autodesk Smoke, the specs aline perfectly, except for the thunderbolt drive speed. I'll have to research more

 

[Hrvoje Simic]

Interesting concept.

Seems like this one has to go on the desk.

Questions,
flash drives =how fast are they?

PCIe flash 1250 MB/s.
SATA drive 500 Mb/s

Website is updated.

http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/

 

[Dave Blackham]

Didn't Jarred say there was some issue with Thunderbolt 1 and 2 with Rocket and Rocket X ?

 

[Brandon J.F.]

 

[shashbugu]

thanks bro.

 

[Peter Majtan]

OK. Well... let's pretend they actually get this to work.

(I'm a little dubious myself - a lot of people predicted a plethora of external Thundebolt GPU options and they haven't materialized for various reasons either).

Then I'll have two GTX Titans each sharing a few TB ports... and an incompatible AMD GPU architecture inside the Mac Pro that I can't use... and another TB port for GigE. Now I'm out of TB ports.

I really do think that having the GPU soldered in is a deliberate attempt to make these things go obsolete more quickly.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

Why would an AMD GPU architecture be incompatible and prevent you from using it?
Not all stuff on the screens needs CUDA. Those "unusable" AMD's can run your app's UI (and do so on 3x 4K displays!), while your external GTX shows the video stream and processes the video filters, etc...
The Mac Pro has GigE already (two of them!), no need to occupy TB port for that.

It seems that no matter what this "box" (it will take some time to change our terminology LOL) is actually capable of - you have already made up your mind...
There is no such a thing as 100% perfect piece of equipment that will make everyone happy...

The glass above is neither half full nor half empty.
It is 100% full. It is full of water and air.
Unfortunately these days many take air for granted...

:sifone: Peter

 

[Drew Lahat]

Ugh.

Ugh.

1. We soldered the GPU to the mobo! And it's not nVidia! I'm sure Adobe and Blackmagic are cursing Apple now, again...

2. Why does anyone think that the TB physical architecture is cool?!?! Daisy-chaining has thankfully been eliminated since the days of SCSI, with the only remnant left being Firewire - and now it's back... now we can have a random pile of very expensive boxes next to our computer box, so we can put cards or drives in them instead of in the box. Not to mention this flimsy, non-locking connector.

Not surprised, but not happy either.

 

[Nick Pasquariello]

If there's no other choice than AMD GPUs, then Adobe and Black Magic and others will have to not-rely-so-heavily-on-CUDA, no? AMD has similar technology (I forget their name for it), and because they're #2, then tend to be much cheaper for equivalent performance. But, since they're #2 so reliably, a lot of software tends to get coded for the #1 (Intel and NVidia, depending on whether you're talking CPU or GPU).

The problem with AMD isn't, in general, the hardware performance. It's the software coding. Wonder if certain Software companies are going to step up their games in response to this . . .

 

[Matt Gottshalk]