Adobe 4k to 16:9 action guides. How do I do this?

[SeanBrown]

[h=5]Hey I am editing something I shot in 4k and want it to be in 16:9 in Adobe. Do you just do that after with black bars or can you do something in RCX to crop it to what you had your on screen frame guides to be? I want to stay raw and not export from RCX in any other format like Prores. In RCX I can use the framing guide to show me my 16:9 i had on screen but not sure how to see that in Adobe without blackbars of Scale to frame size on a 1080P timeline etc[/h]
I saved the RMD after i turned on framing and used my action frames I had on screen in camera as a guide. I want that framing to show up in Adobe CS6 without black bars.
How can we do this? Can Adobe see that framing at this point?
Thanks for your help.

 

[Sandro Klopfstein]

um, why dont you just import the r3ds into premiere/after effects/whatever you're using into a 16:9 timeline and frame it there?

 

[Roger Viloria]

Which 4K flavor did you use?
4K HD is native 16:9, 4K 1.9:1 with 16:9 frame guide aspect ratio, the sides get cropped some.
In Premiere/Preferences/General make sure "Default scale to frame size" is checked and choose a Red r3d Preset or Custom and create your own 4k 16:9 and keep existing settings when dropping media in timeline, of course, always working with the Raw files.

Hope this helps!

 

[SeanBrown]

I think in the end I will Drop the 4ks in to 4k 16:9 preset in Adobe and then scale to 107 for the frames to lose the black bars.

 

[Mike Harrington]

If your not projecting 4k I would go the other way....

Throw it in a 1080p timeline and scale down.....otherwise all you graphics has to be in 4k

 

[Elias Tejeda]

If your not projecting 4k I would go the other way....

Throw it in a 1080p timeline and scale down.....otherwise all you graphics has to be in 4k

This ^^

 

[Gabe Conroy]

If your not projecting 4k I would go the other way....

Throw it in a 1080p timeline and scale down.....otherwise all you graphics has to be in 4k

Premiere actually plays R3Ds back better if they're in a native timeline.

You can also crop your video on export...you might want to do this if you need to use the Warp Stabilizer and don't want to have to nest clips.

 

[Mike Harrington]

sometimes it plays back a little better....but its pretty smooth in 1080 as well

And while you do have a point about the warp stabilizer and nesting....having to incorporate 4k graphics and comps and CG, is a much bigger concern for me.
If it's effects heavy...you don't want to be doing 4k CGI if your final rez is 1080p...

And I dont think PPRO is smart enough to concatenate transforms....so if you have 1080 graphics it would scale it up...then scale it back down on export....2 unnecessary destructive transforms applied


If you don't have any graphics...then I would probably go 4k timeline as well...just rarely happens to me.