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Red Epic Prime Lens equivalent

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Sorry for the dumb question.. new to all this..

If you want a 50mm lens on a Red Epic X you need a 35mm lens? (because its not FF)

Correct?

What are the other equivalents? (other primes)
 
Sorry, but this is a cine camera AND a photographic camera.

For Photo, 24 x 36 mm is considered full frame, for film (S)-35 is full-frame. Which one are you referring to?
 
Uli, Im new to digital, but i thought that for Photo you just frame grabbed from a Cine file? ie same sensor..
How do you FF on the red epic for photography? Info appreciated
 
OK now i understand what you mean.. I'm referring to Red Epic's 30x15mm sensor. Regardless if its for photo or filming, a regular Canon L lens is 50mm a 50mm lens? I was told the 30X15mm will mean there's a conversion when getting a Photo Canon lens.

Does a 35mm become a 50mm lens on a 30x15 Sensored Red epic? (using the entire sensor)
 
I know you are asking about judging the Angle of View FF v S35..but...

I know you are asking about judging the Angle of View FF v S35..but...

A 50mm Canon L will remain the lens I use for a Single actor waist up to top of head, or slightly wider.
s35 or FF.. I will move the camera to achieve the composition that yields that.
As it has the same depth of field on either format, I will use it for that characteristic

In the conventions of movie making, we usually film scenes on set with lens focal lengths that are 18mm-85mm for the basic list of shots to tell a story.
Our image target is S35 (or APS-C)..
We are more concerned with a set of story telling principles that each focal length allows us than with matching angle of view that a FF sensor would yield with a given focal length. As in.. depth of field matters more to me than angle of view.. because I am going to spend a minority of my time seeing the widest angle that my lens set can give me, and more time concentrating on the prominence of my characters and their position in my frame.

Given that...
Here's how we use our lenses (Often)
16mm to 18mm A very wide to see the play of the scene, teach the audience the geography of the room. In edit this will be used for a small amount of the time if a scene
24-29mm A little closer.. lots of the sequence, but not showing the floor in most cases
32-40mm Pairs of cast members performing their interactive portions of the scene.
35-50mm single performer from the POV, or over the shoulder of another performer, playing their part of the scene
85-100mm closeup shots on a single actor for drama or beauty.. an "American" closeup may cut below the hairline

I will spend more time on the 32mm-100mm lenses than any others in most of my work.

compositionally, it is common to keep the eyes of the actors at about 1/4 below the top of frame in all these shots.
 
Hi Christopher,

Its quite interesting and I thank you for your time Christopher, definitely a reply worth printing out on paper :)
Yes regarding angle of view i suppose i meant:

If you use the same lens on a Red Epic and a Canon 5D Mark 3, what is the change in angle of view?

Canon 5D 35mm equivalent to Red Epic 50mm ?
 
I have a photographer friend who is quite successful and aparently he does 90% of his work on a 85mm lens..
Photos of models, full body etc.. its interesting, but im wondering how you get a 85mm angle of view on red epic.. perhaps the 50mm canon L lens.
 
Your starting point of reference is important here.

To most, the S35 is the norm (ie cine/film) sensor/frame size. If you are coming from still photography, the FF sensor/frame size is a larger point of reference for frame size. However, that's just in frame size, not DOF characteristics.

Look at this http://www.abelcine.com/fov/
 
A 65mm lens on the Epic will give very similar angle of view as an 85mm on a 5D.

I agree with Christopher that depth of field and perspective characteristics are more important when choosing a lens, than angle of view comparisons.
 
Just looked at the Abel calculator..
and according to it.. only a 3 degree widening of angle on the 5D in video mode from 16x19 on an Epic (it doesn't say if in 5K)
However.. the divergence varies at other focal lengths.. at 32mm, its more like 5 degrees wider angle on a 5D...
Are you in a circumstance where you lack control over subject to camera distance? If not, move until you have the composition you desire.
 
Christopher Mills said:
A 50mm Canon L will remain the lens I use for a Single actor waist up to top of head, or slightly wider.
s35 or FF.. I will move the camera to achieve the composition that yields that.
As it has the same depth of field on either format, I will use it for that characteristic

In the conventions of movie making, we usually film scenes on set with lens focal lengths that are 18mm-85mm for the basic list of shots to tell a story.
Our image target is S35 (or APS-C)..
We are more concerned with a set of story telling principles that each focal length allows us than with matching angle of view that a FF sensor would yield with a given focal length. As in.. depth of field matters more to me than angle of view.. because I am going to spend a minority of my time seeing the widest angle that my lens set can give me, and more time concentrating on the prominence of my characters and their position in my frame.

Given that...
Here's how we use our lenses (Often)
16mm to 18mm A very wide to see the play of the scene, teach the audience the geography of the room. In edit this will be used for a small amount of the time if a scene
24-29mm A little closer.. lots of the sequence, but not showing the floor in most cases
32-40mm Pairs of cast members performing their interactive portions of the scene.
35-50mm single performer from the POV, or over the shoulder of another performer, playing their part of the scene
85-100mm closeup shots on a single actor for drama or beauty.. an "American" closeup may cut below the hairline

I will spend more time on the 32mm-100mm lenses than any others in most of my work.

compositionally, it is common to keep the eyes of the actors at about 1/4 below the top of frame in all these shots.
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