Question about punching in

[Caleb Spillyards]

So i know this has probably been addressed a few dozen times but i was surfing around acouldnt find the specific answer i was looking for. If im editing a project that will be exported at HD resolution, but there are shots that i wanted to punch in a bit to recompose (a bit), should my sequence in premiere be 1920x1080? Then i would drag my 4k HD clips to the timeline, scale most of them (the ones that are composed how i want) down to the exact size of the window, finish my edit story wise, and then go back and selectively slightly zoom the few clips that are a little wider than i intended? or is there a better way?

If this is the way to do it, is there a way to snap the 4k footage exactly to the edge of the 2k window so that there is no teeny border or so that im not like a millimeter (on screen) more stretched?

dont hate me if this is posted everywhere, i didnt see this specific answer

Caleb

 

[DL Fitch]

Well, you can always just scale the clip to exactly 50% to get the 4k into a 2k sequence. Copy and paste that attribute across all clips.

I've edited using both methods in Premiere, a 2k sequence with the footage scaled down, and a 4k sequence with clips scaled above 100% when I need to punch in. Either works fine... I assume you have CUDA processing enabled? In FCP I would edit with 1080p transcoded media, and scale up shots as needed - when we did an online back to the RAW files, the same scaling percentages matched at 4k. The same technique would also work with a Premiere system without a RedRocket or CUDA.

 

[CK Olsen]

Caleb-
Your method should work just fine, but as long as file size is NOT an issue, I prefer to edit at full on 4KHD, scale up and compose as needed in 4K, then export the entire timeline at 4KHD. Once complete, I post-convert the 4KHD file to 1080P for final delivery. This method looks best to my eyes, AND I retain the 4K master.
-ck

 

[Christopher Barrett]

One thing to beware... if you right click the clip in the timeline you can select "Scale to frame size" This is damn convenient. If you do punch-in from here, however, Premier has already down sampled your footage to the sequence resolution and you will not be sampling from the 4k... and will get a crappy, low-res punch-in. Make sure you resize in the method mentioned above. <Copy> <Paste Attrbutes> is a godsend, especially across multiple clips.

CB

 

[Andrew Gentle]

One thing to beware... if you right click the clip in the timeline you can select "Scale to frame size" This is damn convenient. If you do punch-in from here, however, Premier has already down sampled your footage to the sequence resolution and you will not be sampling from the 4k... and will get a crappy, low-res punch-in.

Oh wow, seriously? I hoped that Premiere was smart enough to use that setting in conjunction with the Motion effect settings. It's an annoying setting anyway because it will always letterbox and usually you want to crop, if the aspects don't match.
I'll be checking the project I'm rendering tonight for cases where we may have done exactly this, thanks for the tip, Christopher.

-Andrew