3:2 pulldown question

[Matthew Kelly Jackson]

I have been requested to transcode some footage from 23.98 to either 29.97 or 59.94 - 1080i. How would one go about doing that in Red Cine x?

HELP!
edit: I also need to keep the original TC for the editors, is this possible?

 

[Frank Cueto]

Dont think u can... U maybe able to do a 24PA by playing with thenquicktime export FPS. But that would be it.

 

[Matthew Kelly Jackson]

What about going into after effects? I would ideally like to batch render this....

 

[Marc Wielage]

I think Apple Compressor would be a better utility for this. My thought would be to take the R3D files, process them to RedLogFilm in 1080, then take those files, bring it into compressor, and let it convert it to 1080i (29.97). Timecode is going to change, but only for frame numbers -- hours/minutes/seconds should stay the same.

Realistically, though, I think a 23.98-originated project is better if you post the whole thing at 23.98, then when you're completely finished, convert it to 1080i for final delivery.

Note that there are numerous network shows that routinely mix 23.98 and 29.97 without any problems. One of them is NBC's The Voice, which does 1080i (29.97) for the live competition audience performances, but 23.98 for the "documentaries" and behind-the-scenes footage. It's an interesting choice, and obviously it works, since the show's ratings are through the roof.

 

[MichaelP]

What application are they using for NLE? Most of them will do a frame rate conversion in the timeline when frame rates don't match. And as Marc says - if the entire program is 23.976, then I would recommend working that way till final deliverables.

Michael

 

[Frank Cueto]

You can always produce your 23.976 content and render it out 29.97 1080i making it automatically compatible with the 29.97 stuff...

 

[Marc Wielage]

I agree with Frank above. This is exactly the way virtually all American dramatic episodic TV shows are done -- shoot in 23.98, all post in 23.98, final delivery at the very end at 1080i 29.97 (with 2:3 pulldown added). Usually the delivery tapes or files are given drop-frame timecode as well, to aid in timing the final results on-air.