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Canon 2.8 zooms fast enough for interiors?

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Andy Kolb

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Hi there,

I'll be shooting a wakeboard film over the next 10 months.
I plan on using the Tokina 11-16, Canon 16-35, Canon 24-70 and Canon 70-200.
An aperture of 2.8 is sufficient for action shots, but I will also shoot some interiors.

I don't have a lot of shooting experience and I wonder if I also need a set of fast primes like the 24, 35, 50 and 85?
I'll be traveling with two Microbeams 512 and one Microbeam 256 to light my interiors.
http://www.flolight.com/led-lighting.html

Thanks a lot!
 
F2.8, ISO 800 and 180 shutter is usually enough to see by in a domestic interior that's lit comfortably - enough to read or work by. It won't look interesting by any means though- wise to give yourself a little more light to work with. I'm guessing you'll be doing talking heads or interview interiors: You may want faster lenses to separate your background better in close-quarters shots more than anything else.
 
Personally I would take a 35 1.4. I think it's an excellent interior lens and I always find shooting low budget interior that having something faster than a 2.8 can be pretty useful. I would drop the 16-35 and take a 35 1.4 instead.

That's me.
 
Nick Morrison said:
For interviews the 35 1.4 and 85 1.4 are a very compelling combo, especially when you shoot both at F2.
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Whole heartedly agree with this, 35mm is a lovely focal length on S35 sensors! Also agree with the f-stop, no need to go as far open as f1.4, makes focusing pulling unnecessarily tricky and f2 looks great (at little bit more detail in the background is nice I find, if the location is interesting).
 
I have used the Canon 50mm 1.2 alot in lots of situations. This is a very valuable tool to have with you. Combined with the 85mm and the 35mm you should have a pretty good coverage of almost anything you will come up against. And the 11 to 16 will give you those tight spaces shots you will need.
The 50 and 35 combo for run and gun are great. If you drop in a a car for some situation the 35 will be good if your sitting next to someone and the 50 will give you a couple of good tights. Also the 50 is amazing for those interview or head shots with the very soft focus everywhere but the subject.
Also invest in some ND's or maybe a Variable ND. The plus is that the filter for the 50, 85, and 35 will all fit each other, 72mm.
I owned the 16-35 for very long time and sold it after a long debate as to if I would replace it or not. I have not missed it and really only miss the 16mm end of it if at all.
 
So that's what I wanna get:

Tokina 11-16 2.8
Canon 24-70 2.8 II
Canon 70-200 2.8 II

Canon 35 1.4
Canon 50 1.2
Canon 100 2.8 Macro

Should I get the 16-35 instead of the Tokina? I don't know if it's really necessary to go that wide and I haven't used the Tokina on an Epic yet. (I'll be shooting 5K and 4K only.)
 
I'm always one for saving money so I would say you can easily make do without the 50 and the 100. On a S35 sensor the 35 is a very versatile lens, particularly with interiors. If I was pressed I would say drop the 50 first.

Stick with the Tokina. It gives you alot more visual options.

My 2 cents again. What is the hotkey for the cents symbol?
 
The Tokina 11-16 actually works at full frame at 14mm on the 5K Epic sensor, so you're good in regards for using the lens at that size.

My copy is extremely sharp actually. At wide open, the only difference in image quality from at f5.6 is slight vignetting... the lens is extremely sharp wide open and suffers from no chromatic abberation. You would be hard pressed to find a sharper and cheaper zoom lens. It's even sharper than my primes which is absolutely ridiculous to fathom sometimes.
 
I would take a closer look at the 85mm 1.4 It may be one of the best lenses money can buy for portrait/interview work.
 
Keep in mind, it's not always a great idea to shoot long lens interviews at a f/2 or wider, you may have focus issues. My preference would be light to f/4 for a talking head. It's tight enough that you should have no trouble getting enough exposure with your instruments. Also don't forget that you can art direct the background, frame a window or place a practical lamp to add some visual contrast.
 
There is actually no 85mm 1.4 lens from Canon.
Only the 1.2 L and the cheaper 1.8, which is great.

I'd like to go for the Canon 24, 35 and 85, but this is not in my budget.

What do you think about the Rokinon combo (24, 35, 85)?
 
I got a Samyang 35mm (same as Rokinon) shipped from B&H this morning: I will try it out when I get back home. I read good things about them an for the price it´s worth a try. They just released cine versions of some of their lenses, the 8, 14 and 35 is already out, the 24 was listed as arriving the 15th of September at B&H. No time frame for the 85 cine version yet.
I ordered the lens at 3.30PM on Tuesday and it was delivered at my door 10AM today by UPS Thursday morning here in Norway. Less than 48h NY to Europe. Is faster than the local mail service. Unbelivable
 
Andy Kolb said:
So that's what I wanna get:

Tokina 11-16 2.8
Canon 24-70 2.8 II
Canon 70-200 2.8 II

Canon 35 1.4
Canon 50 1.2
Canon 100 2.8 Macro

Should I get the 16-35 instead of the Tokina? I don't know if it's really necessary to go that wide and I haven't used the Tokina on an Epic yet. (I'll be shooting 5K and 4K only.)
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Good list, however I would either ADD the 24mm f/1.4 II or make it replace the 35mm, is that much better.
 
Andy Kolb said:
So that's what I wanna get:

Tokina 11-16 2.8
Canon 24-70 2.8 II
Canon 70-200 2.8 II

Canon 35 1.4
Canon 50 1.2
Canon 100 2.8 Macro

Should I get the 16-35 instead of the Tokina? I don't know if it's really necessary to go that wide and I haven't used the Tokina on an Epic yet. (I'll be shooting 5K and 4K only.)
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Def get the tokina at 3k it has a 2.0 crop factor so that 11 is a 22 and that 16 is a 32. My set up is as follows tokina 11-16 zeiss 50 1.4 canon 24mm, 50mm and 85 all 1.8 non l series. Works perfect for most situations however I need to get some macro glass as well
 
Hey guys, I dropped the 100 Macro because I can rent that lens for the few macro shots I do.


Tokina 11-16 2.8
Canon 24-70 2.8 II
Canon 70-200 2.8 II

Canon 24 1.4 II
Canon 35 1.4
Canon 50 1.2
 
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