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Want to upgrade from my Zoom H4n to the next level

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just that, I have a zoom h4n and am interested in upping it one level. two channels is fine, 4 would be better but not critical. would like something with quality pre amps as i will not be using an external amp. needs to have p+48. otherwise pretty simple. dont need a huge amount of features. i will be capturing tracks individually not mixing or anything. would like it to have either SSD or CF/SD recording for media.
 
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/673541-REG/Tascam_DR_680_DR_680_8_Track_Portable_Field.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/404262-REG/Tascam_HD_P2_HD_P2_Portable_Stereo_CF.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...4_R_44_Solid_State_Four_Channel_Portable.html

These are budget recorders. They can work fine for many situations. But if you want great sound, it really starts with Sound Devices. Even running a SD mic pre into one of these will be far better solution. These recorders can get the job done, so if money is an issue, have a look at them. But I would seriously consider the Sound Devices 702T
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...evices_702T_702T_High_Resolution_Compact.html
 
Steve Sherrick said:
... But if you want great sound, it really starts with Sound Devices. Even running a SD mic pre into one of these will be far better solution. These recorders can get the job done, so if money is an issue, have a look at them. But I would seriously consider the Sound Devices 702T
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...evices_702T_702T_High_Resolution_Compact.html
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Michael ... I asked about the same question when I upgraded from a zoom. 100% agree with Steve, what I did was go with the a 744t eventually, after wasted some money on the "semi-pro" stuff. The 744t is an upgrade to the 702t, either of these allow for professional sound for corporate shoots and indie film where there are not a lot of mic's needed. This also allows entry to the world of timecode.
 
Do you already have a mixer? In my opinion something like a used SD302 would be my first upgrade before a new recorder.
 
Upgraded from small Sony to Sound Devices 744t, never looked back.
 
Does anyone know if either the 702T or the 744T transmits timecode or do they only receive timecode? I'm thinking about options to use with the timecode buddy, since the Scarlet doesn't transmit any timecode itself.
 
Awesome thanks. 744T it is then.
PatrickFaith said:
744t is both transmit and receive(has a real nice jamming interface too, also is good for recieving from one of those new clackers). If my memory is right ... i think the 702t is one way (can't remember which).
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Michael Notar said:
just that, I have a zoom h4n and am interested in upping it one level. two channels is fine, 4 would be better but not critical. would like something with quality pre amps as i will not be using an external amp. needs to have p+48. otherwise pretty simple. dont need a huge amount of features. i will be capturing tracks individually not mixing or anything. would like it to have either SSD or CF/SD recording for media.
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Zaxcom Nomad all the way. It won the CAS 2012 Technical Achievement Award. It's a combo recorder/mixer. You can start with the 4 channel model and if you want to add more channels later you can upgrade to 6, 8 or 12 channels by sending in your Nomad and paying the retail price difference plus $300.

http://www.pro-sound.com/Merchant2/...&Product_Code=SZAXNOMAD4&Category_Code=ZMIXER

http://www.zaxcom.com/nomad-2
 
thanks, i was feeling the 702 was the next step, a big one. i agree that 1000 dollar options would just be prosumer.

also with the sound devices is it better quality components and there fore sound with the higher end models or just more channels and time code? it doesnt look like they do anything prosumer.

any one familiar with the roland r-44 or heard any feedback about it?
 
Interested in the timecode mischef as well... Really wish to see the workflow other guys are using to record synced audio. I might do a couple of interviews and really interested in this. Thanks.

I wish to record in a workflow with timecode not sync everything afterwards with software.
 
Kirk.Attard said:
Interested in the timecode mischef as well... Really wish to see the workflow other guys are using to record synced audio. I might do a couple of interviews and really interested in this. Thanks.

I wish to record in a workflow with timecode not sync everything afterwards with software.
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You could hook your mic(s) up to a MixPre and run a mic level output from the MixPre to your Epic/Scarlet. Then you have nothing to sync at all... but you also don't have a backup if something goes wrong. You could also do this with a higher end recorder as well and then you would have a master audio recording to go back to if you wanted/needed to.
 
I would have nothing to mix becuase the sound would have been recorder through a proper mixer if I understand correctly. This would give you the proper recording controls for audio and straight into the scarlet's audio right?

Thanks.

I asked because a lot of people here talk about time code - I guess this would be necessary if I ahve to recorder more than 1 channel of audio
Thanks.

Excuse my questioning - Quite a starter in audio.
 
For the interviews you are talking about you really should have a professional recording sound. They will know what best to do to meet your needs. If you are worried about having to later sync the audio you can have them run a MIC LEVEL output from their mixer to your Scarlet. They will need to set the proper audio levels on your Scarlet as well. The live audio can be sent to you through a cable you keep attached to your camera or wirelessly.

Timecode is usually also used. Simply the time code of the video recorded by your Scarlet is synced to match the timecode of the audio that is being recorded by the sound recordist. Since the numbers match this makes syncing the audio in post very easy. Here is a video on how to do it in REDCINE-X Pro: http://www.red.com/learn/workflow/audiosync
 
Thanks a lot. !!
 
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