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High capacity Redvolts

Mestizo Devon

Mestizo Devon

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Where are the high capacity Redvolts? Has RED made any plans for high capacity side handle sized Redvolts, maybe something that could run for an hour?
 
What technology do you propose they should switch to that is more power dense than lithium ion ?
 
I'm sorry, I don't specialize in radical bleeding edge battery technology.:hand:
Just wondering if any more options in small form factor.

Do you have any thoughts for what could be done?
 
Mestizo Devon said:
I'm sorry, I don't specialize in radical bleeding edge battery technology.:hand:
Just wondering if any more options in small form factor.

Do you have any thoughts for what could be done?
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Power management, is coming, wich should make today`s redvolts last longer.

By the way, I`m under the impression that after a few cicles the redvolts are lasting a little longer, did anyone felt that too?
 
Rodrigo Prata said:
Power management, is coming, wich should make today`s redvolts last longer.

By the way, I`m under the impression that after a few cicles the redvolts are lasting a little longer, did anyone felt that too?
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I wonder how much of an improvement can be made?
 
Just buy RED bricks and be done with the REDvolt madness! REDvolts are great for emergencies or just adding a little more weight, other then that, there not worth the hassle... You can't really expect double the power through power management, your shooting 4K and powering accessories. I can see a extra 5 minutes at most. But it's just not worth running REDvolts. You shouldn't have to wait 10 minutes for the battery to cool then 2:30 mintues to charge for a battery that can only give you 30 of power. Just that makes them useless on set.
 
Jon Carr said:
Just buy RED bricks and be done with the REDvolt madness! REDvolts are great for emergencies or just adding a little more weight, other then that, there not worth the hassle... You can't really expect double the power through power management, your shooting 4K and powering accessories. I can see a extra 5 minutes at most. But it's just not worth running REDvolts. You shouldn't have to wait 10 minutes for the battery to cool then 2:30 mintues to charge for a battery that can only give you 30 of power. Just that makes them useless on set.
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seriously. Redvolts just give me anxiety....
 
Redvolts have their place. I usually run v-mount but today I was shooting some kids handheld and stripped the camera down to body/lens and side handle and found it a lot more manageable that having a brick on the back.
You do need a v-mount setup for serious production but the revolts are handy once in a while.
 
Jon Carr said:
Just buy RED bricks and be done with the REDvolt madness! REDvolts are great for emergencies or just adding a little more weight, other then that, there not worth the hassle... You can't really expect double the power through power management, your shooting 4K and powering accessories. I can see a extra 5 minutes at most. But it's just not worth running REDvolts. You shouldn't have to wait 10 minutes for the battery to cool then 2:30 mintues to charge for a battery that can only give you 30 of power. Just that makes them useless on set.
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I hear you, I'm hooked on the small foot print.
 
Shane Kelly said:
Redvolts have their place. I usually run v-mount but today I was shooting some kids handheld and stripped the camera down to body/lens and side handle and found it a lot more manageable that having a brick on the back.
You do need a v-mount setup for serious production but the revolts are handy once in a while.
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Yep, the small foot print is one of the epic/scarlets key advantages.
 
I know I am in the major minority, but I use exclusively redvolts. Either in the handle or the quad module. I have 12 and 4 chargers and I can go as long as needed.
 
Will Wernick said:
I know I am in the major minority, but I use exclusively redvolts. Either in the handle or the quad module. I have 12 and 4 chargers and I can go as long as needed.
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I would not like being your AC... That doesn't annoy you having to use so many chargers and batteries?
 
I've gone the redvolt route too and although charging, swapping and having more elements can be frustrating, overall I've really liked it. I do mostly documentary work so I can't argue for using them on set, but in my experience I wouldn't want to switch to v-mount options.

I LOVE shooting on the scarlet with just the touch screen and side handle. I shot a short in England last month and I spent a day running around London with my Scarlet getting some b-roll and it was a blast. I even did some short time-lapses with it set at 5K 8FPS, yes it takes up A LOT of space, but having the increased DR and really simple post workflow for coloring is a HUGE plus. I'm definitely considering doing it more in the future.

If I start to get into more narrative work, that may change...will change...
 
Jon Carr said:
But it's just not worth running REDvolts. You shouldn't have to wait 10 minutes for the battery to cool then 2:30 mintues to charge for a battery that can only give you 30 of power. Just that makes them useless on set.
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It only takes about 2 hours to fully charge when they're completely spent. Same time as the Quad charger. Put 4-5 travel chargers on a power strip and you've got a DIY 4 or 5-bank charger. I've been getting 30-35 minutes shooting 5k at 24fps. It only takes about 2-3 minutes for them to cool down after they come off the camera. But you don't have to wait if you don't want. You can put them on a charger right off the camera and the charger will blink red and green until they cool down. Then after a couple minutes when they cool down, the charger will start charging them and it'll blink orange.

Loving the ability to strip the Epic down to the LCD, lens and side handle. I put that set up in a bag, hopped on the Metrolink and shot without anyone bothering me. The ticket guy even waited until I stopped shooting before asking me if I had a ticket. The cops at Union station in LA just watched me film without saying anything. Wouldn't have been as easy with bricks or as low profile. In other situations when low weight/profile isn't a concern, I put 4 in the quad mod and I'm good for 2 + hours and can hot swap. Redvolts give you more versatility. I was skeptical too before deciding to go the redvolt route but I haven't had one problem with them since last October.

Things will only get better as power management gets implemented and the +1 Monitor adaptor comes out that will have an auxiliary power out port.
 
Jon Carr said:
Just buy RED bricks and be done with the REDvolt madness! REDvolts are great for emergencies or just adding a little more weight, other then that, there not worth the hassle... You can't really expect double the power through power management, your shooting 4K and powering accessories. I can see a extra 5 minutes at most. But it's just not worth running REDvolts. You shouldn't have to wait 10 minutes for the battery to cool then 2:30 mintues to charge for a battery that can only give you 30 of power. Just that makes them useless on set.
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100% agreed. RED Bricks or any other V-Mount/AB battery... why in the heck do people insist on these ridiculous Redvolts? LOL

Greg McDonald said:
Put 4-5 travel chargers on a power strip and you've got a DIY 4 or 5-bank charger.
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And no... that's just 4 or 5 chargers, not a 4 or 5 bank charger :sifone:
 
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