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Slider (Currently for DSLR & future cameras) Help

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Michael Frymus

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Currently I have a DSLR that I shoot on, but I shoot on other cameras for various projects. So, I want to make sure I can use it on many cameras.

I want a slider that is about 5ft long. Can be slightly longer, but not shorter
I will be attaching a 100mm Bowl Fluid Head onto it, so I will be needing a high hat, or something like that.

I did find some that interest me, but I see several problems with it:

Konova K5 59" Slider
This one is at the top of my list as of now. Its long, and I can mount a high speed motor so it automatically slides, while I am able to do some minor pant/tilts if needed. Its affordable, at my max of my budget of $900 with a motor.

The problem is mounting an adapter for the 100mm bowl. There is only 1 center screw. Seems a little unstable. Not sure which adapter I'd need so it works fine.

2) The other thing is, being able to mount the 100mm fluid head, on a 90[SUP]0[/SUP] angle for vertical shots. I dont know which adapter piece Id need to do vertical shots. With one center screw, it seems even harder to do so.


Kessler 5ft CineSlider
This would be ideal for what I want. It doesnt have a motor, but at least it has a crank. Sure, I can attach a motor to it, but thats an additional $650+ on top of the $1,700 Slider! That's WAY beyond my budget. My budget is more like $1000 (Like the Konova)

Its great because it has a wider base with many mounting options, including a high riser for my Fluid Head. But, just too much.

So, this is a NO. Even used, I doubt it'll be affordable.

Digital Juice Slyder Dolly
This slider, looks very nice! It is also exactly what I want. It is slightly more expensive, but I may be able to afford it. Hopefully there would be one used.
Its everything I'd need in this slider. BUT, the big problem...

Where is the Crank or the Motor?

I want to get very smooth shots, and I want to do some pans/tilts while the camera slides, but then I'd need at least a crank, better a motor. But, there isn't one included. Which is a big negative. If it had one, I'd definitely buy it.

Even if I get this, and don't use a crank/motor, I still need to buy some additional accessories. Something to mount to the slider and to the 100mm bowl adapter so I can go vertical.


So, these are the 3 main ones I liked. But, all have their downsides.

Slider:
-5ft Long
-Ball Baring slider
-Supports DSLR to heavier cameras
-Smooth
-Quiet
-Preferably with more than a single screw in the center


Accessories:
100mm Bowl Adapter
90[SUP]0[/SUP] Angle Adapter (And still be able to use Fluid Head)
Offset*

*The offset I believe will be a great addition. This will be easier to handle the fluid head for pans/tilts, and on certain angles, will allow to move the camera back more on wider shots. Problem I see, it may cause the slider to be off balance and cause issues.


HELP? :)
 
Chris Henze said:
I've used a bunch of sliders and hated every one. I own and use the CamTram and suggest you take a look at it. Much smoother, more versatile and the best creeps you can get.
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Have you read my post at all?

Michael Frymus said:
...Its affordable, at my max of my budget of $900 with a motor... My budget is more like $1000 (Like the Konova)
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...Yeah, but I need a slider. I dont have the money nor storage to afford big dollies or whatever. Im not an experienced pro working with the RED or other big expensive cameras. I just have a DSLR, and im looking for a slider.
 
You don't need a crank or motor to get smooth movement. It just takes practice. Both the cineslider and pocket dolly can use a 100mm riser, which I use all the time. You probably don't want to use a motor if you are shooting sound. As mentioned something like the Dana dolly would work as well. I built my own for around $50. It's not a big dolly, takes up less space than my slider. Be aware that once you start adding 100mm riser, larger fluid head, larger monitor, heavier camera, you are going to need to up your slider support to a heavy duty, or dual support option.
 
I believe the Kessler slider would do what you need. It slides smoothly with the push of your hand or the crank. Simple move like it can provides a professional look to your production without costing your an arm and a leg. When you can afford it, a revolution head would be a nice addition. Good luck.
 
Frank Weeks said:
I believe the Kessler slider would do what you need. It slides smoothly with the push of your hand or the crank. Simple move like it can provides a professional look to your production without costing your an arm and a leg. When you can afford it, a revolution head would be a nice addition. Good luck.
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Id love to have the Kessler, as it is what I need, but new, its way out of my price range. Im not sure I'll be able to find it even used at my price.

I have about $1,400 in total. And part of that, about $500 is going towards a used fluid head. So, I have about $900-1000 for a slider. Dont think ill be able to find a used 5ft Kessler, with a 100mm bowl for that price. If I will, then Im lucky.
 
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